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Air Atlanta Icelandic - What's its status now?

Old 3rd Nov 2001, 01:09
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Question Air Atlanta Icelandic - What's its status now?

Yes, I know that the question related to wet-leasing operators like AAI was asked a few weeks ago.

Just curious about how they are doing - is their business increasing or declining like all others? I heard that one of the 767s previously operated for Excel was leaving for an African airline - is that true?

Does this type of business do well in this awful airline environment?

Any AAI pilots out there - how are things for you?


Best of luck to all AAI pilots out there!
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Old 3rd Nov 2001, 23:07
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Air atlanta is on deep troubles now.
They just lose the two wetleased ac with iberia and another one for saudia. Lots of people has been layed off.the future is very uncertain for this company, right now but i thing they will pick up contracts by the begining of next year.
I thing and wish that they will survive as they have very good guys working there.

Good luck Guys!!!
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Sad to say....but I told you so in previous messages. Some it would appear, do not believe the VERY big problems that beset this aircarrier....their day has come and gone...
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Looks like they're in the process of closing up their MAN office for the winter, but I suspect that is nothing more then the usual winter close down here. Heard they have nothing now til hajj time in Feb. Best of luck to all.

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Doc C,

Hadj flights will begin around the 10th Jan.

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I sit corrected.

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...and as for Haj, the word is that BA has underbid everyone in order to secure some cashflow and utilisation of their parked 744s. If true, it will mean very serious trouble for CC.

Dunno how the Nigels will react to the 'flexible' duty times required for these ops ... or the overweight takeoffs... or having to use another carrier's cabin crew... and especially their pax!
 
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Itīs not as bad as all that. Manchester was always going to shut down over the winter. IB was a blow and there will be a whole lot more competition for the Hajj work this year BUT Air Atlantaīs strength lies in itīs flexibility. Also, BA and others might be trying to undercut established carriers in the wet-lease market but I highly doubt that they have the right corporate mindset to operate a successful Hajj.

Atlanta has a very flexible workforce and fleet arrangements. If thereīs very little business they should be able to batten down the hatches, "right-size" without punitive cost and be ready to act when the inevitable upturn comes.

Itīs going to be a rough few months for everyone, but Atlanta should have enough work in the pipeline to keep the core of the company intact and ready to grow when times improve.
 
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Guv !,

You're not suggesting that Hajj pilots exceed duty limits,operate overweight aircraft and passegers we carry on the Hajj flights are below the socially acceptable status line are you ?

411A - ....ah,forget it, you're too far gone to be bothered with.

I am enjoying the extended break. A bit of gardening during the day and serving beer at the Quokka Alms by night until January comes around and we all re-unite at Rose Village.

It's not the first time Air Atlanta have done it hard and it won't be the last. Great company with many, many years of service left in her yet!
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The Guvnor and 411A love to provoke people,
and the only reason I can see is that they are lonely. Guys, get out at night, meet someone
and enjoy their company. Take them out to a movie, buy them popcorn, sit close but don't wear cologne that is too strong. After striking out more than once, you will realize that people have feelings. So what I am trying to say is: "Don't gloat!" Sure, some airlines might go down, but don't gloat about it and put people down.

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Whiskery - having operated the Nigerian Haj in the late 80s, I'm shocked and horrified that you'd think that I'd be saying such scurrilous things!

Donkey - stop making an ass of yourself.
 
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Guv

You say that you operated the Nigerian Hadj, care to tell us what role you played?

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Questions related to the 767 operation:

How is the 767 operation doing? Where has AAI sourced its 767 pilots - internal upgrades or outside hiring with 767 types? How is your aircraft type determined - i.e. based on experience only?

Any AAI pilots out there who wish to comment about current conditions, etc.?


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How about some good news from the totaljobs website...

Pilots
Location: Europe
Boeing 747 Type Rated Pilots and Flight Engineers
Air Crew Executive Limited (ACE) is currently seeking experienced personnel for Air Atlanta Icelandic.
The qualifications required are:
Commander: B747 Classic, type rated. Minimum total time 7,000 hours, 1,000 on type, and 500 hours as a Commander. Current JAA Member State ATPL/I/R.
Co*Pilot: B747 Classic, type rated. Minimum total time 1,500 hours, and 500 hours on type. Current JAA Member State CPL/I/R and ATPL Ground School.
Flight Engineers: B747 Classic, type rated. Minimum total time 1,500 hours, and 500 hours on type. Current JAA Member State F/E licence.
Applicants need to have a European Union work permit.
Please mail, fax or e*mail your CV before 19th November to: Air Crew Executive Limited
E*mail: [email protected] and [email protected]
For more information: mailto:[email protected]
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Mutt - I was the 'project manager' in 87/88 when we operated it under Kano Air Transport International (KATI AIR)'s AOC - my own company, Transoceanic, was cargo only.
 
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The 'location' is not Europe! ACE are looking for crews to fly the Haj out of Jeddah for 3 months.
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Noddy,

Try www.totaljobs.com click on Aerospace then search Air Crew and wow, ACE are looking for Europe based crews!

Fancy that!
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I was told that they have a contract for 10 747s and training and spooling up for Haj will begin in about 2 weeks.
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I noticed a leased B747 in Saudia's colours yesterday, I presume that it was Air Atlanta. So whoever had the rumour that they had lost the Saudia contract may be incorrect.

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No fear, I'm sure the UK MoD will keep CC in business!
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