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Old 18th Sep 2007, 14:44
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EK 26 on the Grass @ GLA

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EK26 currently on the grass near A1 holding point, been there for a while. All passengers currently disembarking onto buses. Other aircraft entering main runway via D and 180 at A1 for 23 take off. Apparently unable to be pushed from its current position ??
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 14:57
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From BAA/GLA info site at 1542;

14:05 EK026 DUBAI TAXIED 1418
14:05 UL2026 DUBAI TAXIED 1418
14:25 BA1487 HEATHROW TAXIED 1427

Looks like a few others snarled up.
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Is it "possible" that EK026 and UL2026 is/are the same a/c?
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Yes
They are same aircraft. There is a small kink in the taxiway @ that point easy to misjudge it!
Easily done I suppose. (Nearly happened to me!)
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777 on grass in GLA

We were held in the LANAK hold for 20 minuttes, finally we were cleared for the approach Rwy 23. First a/c (BA8726) to land after reopening rwy.
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On EK webpage it says that due to maintenace reasons pax will be flying tomorrow 19th Sep. I do not know if "maintenance reasons" is the true cause or simply that there´s no possible (nor reccommendable) way to say "plane on the grass".
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Old 18th Sep 2007, 23:50
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wot a day!apparently pilot of flight one of the fleet training captains(oops)!plane out of the grass at about half past eleven(2230z)and currently under tow to a stand after being unloaded and de-fuelled about 70 tonnes worthhappened right at the end of the runway where all the spotters sit with their cameras and scanners so i'm sure there will be some good pics!
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E K Incident

After being at emirates for several years. I will not be surprised, this is just the beegining.. EK managament has their own mafia and they will keep this chekairman protected...There is a lot incompetency at EK as youcan see starting with the training department....
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After seeing it in closer detail, EK26 appears to have taken B link then changed his mind to take A for departure. This left him a tight angle and the left set of main wheels appeared to run a few feet into the grass with the nose wheels at the far side of the taxiway just about to go onto the grass, effectively diagonally across the taxiway. Similar to cutting a corner in your car and bumping rear wheels on the curb but on a grander scale
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 06:47
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So the guy taxi's into the grass by accident and he should be hanged? Jeez guys, wish i didn't make any errors, but it happens. No one is hurt, i'm sure some lessons wil be learned from it and we all move on. Hope people are less judgemental of you when you make your mistakes.
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 07:00
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Of course these muppets above NEVER make errors
Pictures for those who want 'em http://www.taxiwayalpha.com/forums/i...=0&#entry26914

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Old 19th Sep 2007, 10:40
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Anthonny and others...
Just for the record the person concerned is a very highly experienced pilot with decades of long haul experience and training for very highly regarded companies. Just remember the old adage - there but for the grace of ... go I.
Don't be so quick to judge and crucify. I have no vested interest here either way but I do not criticise others without the facts - even with the facts I am loathe to do so. It could so easily happen to any of us. It always amazes me how quick we pilots are to judge our fellow aviators and to point fingers.
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 11:25
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Rather embarassing! To be fair the 773 is a loooong aircraft and Glasgow doesn't have particularly wide taxiways. Doesn't take much to misjudge something like that.
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Feel really sorry for this chap and echo the sentiments of other who have said " there but for the grace of God....." etc.
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Just out of interest was it TCAS by any chance ???
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 13:51
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Narrow taxiways, not prepared for these long airplanes. A few new pilots, particularly those with no or little experience in wide bodies (not the case here, I guess), sometimes miscalculate the turns. The camera is there to help you out, but **** happens.
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Old 19th Sep 2007, 13:53
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Not TCAS, because he doesn't fly. Non-flying position with EK
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After seeing it in closer detail, EK26 appears to have taken B link then changed his mind to take A for departure. This left him a tight angle and the left set of main wheels appeared to run a few feet into the grass with the nose wheels at the far side of the taxiway just about to go onto the grass, effectively diagonally across the taxiway. Similar to cutting a corner in your car and bumping rear wheels on the curb but on a grander scale
Not exactly true. The ek flight was lined up r/w 23,a/c close behind on approach. Ek then told to vacate and other a/c told to g/around. Ek vacated via b to return to the holding point a1 full length r/w 23,however the turn from b to a1 is >90 degrees and not suitable for a 777
Sympathy for the crew.
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Old 20th Sep 2007, 10:11
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Just out of interest wether the aircraft was actually defuelled.
The reason i ask is that at LHR weve had a few aircraft in the grass at one time or other and at no time have we had to defuel any of them even when fully loaded for Departure. All we offload is the pax, even the freight/baggage has stayed on.

Defuelling also takes a long time and would have amajor impact on any operation

Any thoughts/comments
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Old 20th Sep 2007, 10:21
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Defuelling also takes a long time and would have amajor impact on any operation
Ah but this is Glasgow.
The bouys will have the syphons out and the beastie drained dry in no time....
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