Rude on 123.45 last night
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Rude on 123.45 last night
Anybody know who repeatedly used the phrase "The Eurotrash" meaning European pilots last night on 123.45Mhz around 40W at 2:30UTC? He was American accented and sounded particulary obnoxious. If someone knows who this individual is perhaps they might inform him that offensive language is prohibited by FCC rules amongst others. Given that he was quite probably flying quite a few Europeans to Europe he may wish to rethink his bigotry.
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In my experience, 'Eurotrash' is used in an endearing way as a description for Continental European 'yoof'; The term possibly being derived from a zany TV programme presented by Antoine de Caunes.
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I thought 123.45 was restricted to interminable American 'ride reports' and discussion of obscure baseball/American football/ice hockey scores? We now have racist comments?
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OK - but I have heard it used on a number of occasions, and never in a derogatory way. Other things he said may be.
The term 'Eurotrash' wouldn't bother me in itself though.
The term 'Eurotrash' wouldn't bother me in itself though.
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Why are you keeping watch on 123.45? Except when using it to communicate with 'company' crew , we are only listening on 121.5 and the freq in use.
Were you talking and some smart guy get in saying that?
Why would you feel ofended by that?
If a stupid fool calls me names on the radio should I feel angry? It's just a chicken ,no balls to say that to you if you'll meet face to face. Why to be angry then, just ignore the stupid fool.
Were you talking and some smart guy get in saying that?
Why would you feel ofended by that?
If a stupid fool calls me names on the radio should I feel angry? It's just a chicken ,no balls to say that to you if you'll meet face to face. Why to be angry then, just ignore the stupid fool.
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Very sorry!!!
Gentlemen:
On behalf of myself and all the other American pilots, please accept this apology for the rudeness of the idiot who displayed his stupidity the other night. I can, without question, say that the vast majority of Americans DO NOT FEEL THIS WAY!!!!
PantLoad
On behalf of myself and all the other American pilots, please accept this apology for the rudeness of the idiot who displayed his stupidity the other night. I can, without question, say that the vast majority of Americans DO NOT FEEL THIS WAY!!!!
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If you'd heard what Portuguese fishermen get up to in the dead of night on channel 16 (the nautical equivalent of 121.5, ish), you'd realise we are relatively fortunate in the general conduct in aviation radiotelephony!
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Unprofessional, possibly...Ill mannered, perhaps, foolish, probably, but racist, Oh, for God's sake get a life and grow up!
How can anyone be so pre-programmed with idiotic PC nonsense that he/she/it shouts "racist" every time a national/regional identity is uttered? Beats me. Shame on you.
Oooooh!!! I'm scared now!!!
Do EEC rules now apply in mid Atlantic, Consol? Or is there some other point you're trying to make?
Methinks he doth protest too much!
How can anyone be so pre-programmed with idiotic PC nonsense that he/she/it shouts "racist" every time a national/regional identity is uttered? Beats me. Shame on you.
racist and offensive language is prohibited by FCC rules
Do EEC rules now apply in mid Atlantic, Consol? Or is there some other point you're trying to make?
Methinks he doth protest too much!
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IcePack,
When it comes to communications across the Atlantic, most of us have:
- 121.5 MHz
- various HF frequencies with SELCAL
- ADS
- CPDLC
- SATCOM
Don't get your nickers in a twist just because someone's turned the volume down on what is basically a chat frequency (123.45 Mhz).
When it comes to communications across the Atlantic, most of us have:
- 121.5 MHz
- various HF frequencies with SELCAL
- ADS
- CPDLC
- SATCOM
Don't get your nickers in a twist just because someone's turned the volume down on what is basically a chat frequency (123.45 Mhz).
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What....you mean 123.45 is not for position reports to Gander/Shanwick ?? Come on Consol, there's better things in life to do other than being offended on the frequency. However I do second PantLoads comment. Now if there was only a way to stop that "private Polish chit-chat" (seen the Battle of Britain lately ?)
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Whats the big deal? I thought being rude on 123.45 was common practise? just like its common practise for the Hun..errrr germans to use 121.50 for a chat channel over europe...
"Henrich can you hear me....."
If some knob..be they American or European is rude....use this simple tactic...be rude back
"Henrich can you hear me....."
If some knob..be they American or European is rude....use this simple tactic...be rude back
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Q.E.D. ??!!!
Quoting the NATS document which Mike posted:
"... the frequency 121.5 MHz is to be monitored by all aircraft ..."
"... it is recommended that aircraft additionally monitor 123.45 MHz ..."
It does not say the frequency 123.45 MHz is to be monitored, it simply says that aircraft are recommended to monitor 123.45 MHz. In this instance, alexban and his company are choosing not to follow the recommendation.
"... the frequency 121.5 MHz is to be monitored by all aircraft ..."
"... it is recommended that aircraft additionally monitor 123.45 MHz ..."
It does not say the frequency 123.45 MHz is to be monitored, it simply says that aircraft are recommended to monitor 123.45 MHz. In this instance, alexban and his company are choosing not to follow the recommendation.
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I was flying back from MCO last night and I heard the pilot being referred to. He made his statement after a couple of BA pilots exchanged some information with words to the effect of: "So when the 'Eurotrash' talk with each other no one tries to transmit over them!". I certainly wouldn't call it "racist". It was just a gung-ho pilot jock trying to be funny and failing miserably as no one really bothered respond to him.
I have found that I tune out most of the chatter on 123.45 as it is mostly inane and boring. There is almost always someone who tries to be funny and a few pilots will try and jump on the bandwagon but again, it is rarely so and not worth giving them the honour of acknowledging them.
So, turn down the volume for a while and more often than not, by the time you remember to turn it back up they have tired of their exchange and you can carry on monitoring. I find it is a sign of very little CAT when the 123.45 airwaves are being used by amateur comedians and sports fanatics trying to keep up with their baseball scores.
As for "Eurotrash"... I know we weren't bothered and just looked at each other and rolled our eyes whilst shaking our heads and commented that "theres's always one eejit who will let the side down" and last night it was that silly US pilot. However, it is not an exclusively American trait and I can remember many times cringing when listening to someone trying to be funny without the requisite skills on that frequency.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over the incident though.
I have found that I tune out most of the chatter on 123.45 as it is mostly inane and boring. There is almost always someone who tries to be funny and a few pilots will try and jump on the bandwagon but again, it is rarely so and not worth giving them the honour of acknowledging them.
So, turn down the volume for a while and more often than not, by the time you remember to turn it back up they have tired of their exchange and you can carry on monitoring. I find it is a sign of very little CAT when the 123.45 airwaves are being used by amateur comedians and sports fanatics trying to keep up with their baseball scores.
As for "Eurotrash"... I know we weren't bothered and just looked at each other and rolled our eyes whilst shaking our heads and commented that "theres's always one eejit who will let the side down" and last night it was that silly US pilot. However, it is not an exclusively American trait and I can remember many times cringing when listening to someone trying to be funny without the requisite skills on that frequency.
I wouldn't lose any sleep over the incident though.