Rude on 123.45 last night
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Keep a sense of perspective now
Heard enough derogatory remarks about U.S/Canadian airline guys from plummy-voiced Brits (I'm one) on 123.45, and I just shrug the embarassing comments off. As Danny says, bored folk filling in time and the airwaves. No big deal.
And racist? Ludicrous comment.
And racist? Ludicrous comment.
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There are some wonderful UK actors who can do spot on American Accents...Mark addy I think for one (still standing sitcom).
You and I could never know if the actual speaker was american or just someone who can do a real nice accent from, let's say Chicago.
And if Eurotrash upsets you, just call him Trailer Trash and I think you will quiet him down.
There are a number of unofficial chat freqs out there...known in the US as:
winchester
earl schieb
top of the FM dial
for example. I'd love to hear from people that know these freqs, as they may be coming a lost bit of knowledge.
and only really worry when people start singing:
"I wish I were a (fill in the blank) air pilot
for that is what I would truly love to be
for if I were a (fill in the blank) air pilot
they would not have to pay me"
that got a couple of our guys a few days on the beach...but they swear it was worth it!
You and I could never know if the actual speaker was american or just someone who can do a real nice accent from, let's say Chicago.
And if Eurotrash upsets you, just call him Trailer Trash and I think you will quiet him down.
There are a number of unofficial chat freqs out there...known in the US as:
winchester
earl schieb
top of the FM dial
for example. I'd love to hear from people that know these freqs, as they may be coming a lost bit of knowledge.
and only really worry when people start singing:
"I wish I were a (fill in the blank) air pilot
for that is what I would truly love to be
for if I were a (fill in the blank) air pilot
they would not have to pay me"
that got a couple of our guys a few days on the beach...but they swear it was worth it!
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Okay racist might have been a bit much but he was over the top and trying to be offensive, he repeated the comments several times. Happen to enjoy most of the humorous comments on 123.45 and find nearly all US very helpful, witty and courteous. Just thought its a strange attitude to have to many of your passengers and fellow pilots. I detest p.c. too but we really don't need people like him broadcasting his insults to those of us based east of the pond. Just hoping any US flyers who know who it was would pass it on that he was quite offensive. That's all!
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Possibly this is a generation thing? Consol is obviously of a younger breed and just a bit too sensitive. Possibly would have helped if Consol had served even a short spell in HM forces and realised that taking the p1ss is a form of endorsement?
Está servira para distraerle.
For decades the Europeans have referred with total disparagement to those who live in forty nine, fifty or fifty one states as Yanks.
It seems highly appropriate that the Yanks should now refer to those who live in twenty seven states as Eurotrash.
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This has been a real eye opener...some comments posted here I HAVE NEVER HEARD before.
and last time I checked , the USA only had 50 states, not 51.
and what is a boxhead?
ok, the following checklist should be used upon hearing a disparaging remark up on the radio.
upon hearing, pull checklist and read the following:
"sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never harm me"
and last time I checked , the USA only had 50 states, not 51.
and what is a boxhead?
ok, the following checklist should be used upon hearing a disparaging remark up on the radio.
upon hearing, pull checklist and read the following:
"sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never harm me"
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Well I've been up to Paris,
and I've slept in a park.
Went down to Barcelona,
someone broke in my car.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl.
Took the train down to Athens,
and I bathed in a fountain.
Some Swiss junkie in Turin
ripped me off for my cash.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
The CRS on the metro
shook me down for a bribe.
On my knees for the sergeant
when my passport arrived.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Called my mom from a payphone
I said "I'm down to my last."
She said "I sent you to college...
now go call your dad."
And the waitress that he married,
well she hung up the phone.
You know she never did like me,
but I can stand on my own.
Sold my plasma in Amsterdam.
Spent it all in a night,
buying drinks at the Melk Weg
for a soldier in drag.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl (solo Johnny)
Got a tattoo in Berlin
(and a case of the crabs).
A rose and a dagger
on the palm of my hand.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
and I've slept in a park.
Went down to Barcelona,
someone broke in my car.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl.
Took the train down to Athens,
and I bathed in a fountain.
Some Swiss junkie in Turin
ripped me off for my cash.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
The CRS on the metro
shook me down for a bribe.
On my knees for the sergeant
when my passport arrived.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Euro-trash Girl
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Called my mom from a payphone
I said "I'm down to my last."
She said "I sent you to college...
now go call your dad."
And the waitress that he married,
well she hung up the phone.
You know she never did like me,
but I can stand on my own.
Sold my plasma in Amsterdam.
Spent it all in a night,
buying drinks at the Melk Weg
for a soldier in drag.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl (solo Johnny)
Got a tattoo in Berlin
(and a case of the crabs).
A rose and a dagger
on the palm of my hand.
And I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Euro-trash Girl, Euro-trash girl.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for my angel in black.
Yeah, I'll search the world over
for a Eurotrash Girl.
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Must have been 6 or 7 years ago- middle of the night back across the Atlantic, on 123.45 an 'exchange' occurred. I'm pretty good at identifying languages, but this was weird. Some East European/Balkan one I think. Rapid crossfire of unintelligible chatter, becoming quite annoying as it went on. As soon as he could cut in, this very loud, tired sounding, angry, bored American voice demanded 'Would you shut that c*** up?' Silence. Hysterical.
Anyone heard anymore of the Russian anthem being broadcast at dawn mid Atlantic?
Anyone heard anymore of the Russian anthem being broadcast at dawn mid Atlantic?
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123,45
What says ICAO (various chapters from ANX 10)
5.2.1.7.3.2.6 Interpilot air-to-air communication shall be established on the air-to-air channel 123.45 MHz by either a directed call to a specific aircraft station or a general call, taking into account conditions pertaining to use of this channel.
Note.— For conditions on use of air-to-air channels see Annex 10, Volume V, 4.1.3.2.1, also Volume II, [COLOR="Blue"]5.2.2.1.1.4.[/COLOR] 5.2.1.7.3.2.6.1 PANS.— As the aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification “INTERPILOT”
4.1.3.2 Air-to-air communications channel
4.1.3.2.1 An air-to-air VHF communications channel on the frequency of 123.45 MHz shall be designated to enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary
operational information and to facilitate the resolution of operational problems.
Note.— Use of the air-to-air channel can cause interference to and from aircraft using the same frequency for air-ground communications.
4.1.3.2.2 In remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations, the air-to-air VHF communications channel on the frequency 123.45 MHz shall be available only with the characteristics as contained in Annex 10, Volume III, Part II, Chapter 2.
5.2.2.1.1.4 The user of the air-to-air VHF communications channel shall ensure that adequate watch is maintained on designated ATS frequencies, the frequency of the aeronautical emergency channel, and any other mandatory watch frequencies.
5.2.1.7.3.2.6.1 PANS.— As the aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification “INTERPILOT”.
5.2.1.7.3.2.6 Interpilot air-to-air communication shall be established on the air-to-air channel 123.45 MHz by either a directed call to a specific aircraft station or a general call, taking into account conditions pertaining to use of this channel.
Note.— For conditions on use of air-to-air channels see Annex 10, Volume V, 4.1.3.2.1, also Volume II, [COLOR="Blue"]5.2.2.1.1.4.[/COLOR] 5.2.1.7.3.2.6.1 PANS.— As the aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification “INTERPILOT”
4.1.3.2 Air-to-air communications channel
4.1.3.2.1 An air-to-air VHF communications channel on the frequency of 123.45 MHz shall be designated to enable aircraft engaged in flights over remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations to exchange necessary
operational information and to facilitate the resolution of operational problems.
Note.— Use of the air-to-air channel can cause interference to and from aircraft using the same frequency for air-ground communications.
4.1.3.2.2 In remote and oceanic areas out of range of VHF ground stations, the air-to-air VHF communications channel on the frequency 123.45 MHz shall be available only with the characteristics as contained in Annex 10, Volume III, Part II, Chapter 2.
5.2.2.1.1.4 The user of the air-to-air VHF communications channel shall ensure that adequate watch is maintained on designated ATS frequencies, the frequency of the aeronautical emergency channel, and any other mandatory watch frequencies.
5.2.1.7.3.2.6.1 PANS.— As the aircraft may be guarding more than one frequency, the initial call should include the distinctive channel identification “INTERPILOT”.
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is it better to say nasty comments on the radio, or just write them on pprune?
I got into flying because I thought it would be a true brotherhood of people trying to make aviation safer and our jobs better. thoughtful, dedicated, and having great qualities of leadership.
oh boy, was I wrong!
I got into flying because I thought it would be a true brotherhood of people trying to make aviation safer and our jobs better. thoughtful, dedicated, and having great qualities of leadership.
oh boy, was I wrong!
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A few years ago, on 123.45, 02.00 hours, mid-atlantic......
"Delta, what's your ride like at 310 ?"
"It's so rough up here I've got white-caps on my coffee !"
"Roger Delta. Clipper, How's your ride at 330 ?"
"Real bad, my first officer's just stuck his fork in his eye !"
"Roger Clipper. Speedbird, what's it like at 350 ?"
In a cut-glass English accent............
"Sorry old boy, can't help, nobody's eating or drinking"
Silence
Those were the days !
"Delta, what's your ride like at 310 ?"
"It's so rough up here I've got white-caps on my coffee !"
"Roger Delta. Clipper, How's your ride at 330 ?"
"Real bad, my first officer's just stuck his fork in his eye !"
"Roger Clipper. Speedbird, what's it like at 350 ?"
In a cut-glass English accent............
"Sorry old boy, can't help, nobody's eating or drinking"
Silence
Those were the days !
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Listened to the conversation the other night on 123.45, Euro trash comments were tacky, just as the person that kept trying to intefere with the keying of the mike. Everyone needs to grow up and move on.
