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Old 18th Dec 2001, 00:26
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Angry Seatbelt buckles. Idiot passengers

Latest fashion craze in Ibiza clubscene is to wear seatbelts from the flight over as a belt to stop your trousers from coming down (Isn't that the point of clubbing in Ibiza? To get drop 'em and get shagged?)

We lost 2 on the last trip over. Got their names etc. Hope they get thier asses stuck in jail.

Keep a watchful eye!
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Actually, while we're on the subject, can someone tell me why passengers are taught how to buckle and unbuckle seat belts on a flight? Is there really anyone who can't figure it out?

Just wondering...
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can you spell "l.i.a.b.i.l.i.t.y" ?

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And seat belts are the only thing pax can injure themselves with...?
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Liability and the fact that you are required by law to demonstrate it are why it's done but never underestimate the ability of passengers to suprise you. The cabin crew on one of my flights found a woman trying to put her travel cot with baby still inside, in an overhead locker!. She was very angry when told that she had to get the baby out and put an extension seatbelt on it.
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Great idea! The lady was simply performing an act of astonishing (and all too rare) consideration for her fellow passengers and should be applauded for her initiative....
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The best thing to do with these pax is to refuse them return passage because there is NO SEAT BELT FOR THEM.
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As far as I know it has been popular for quite some time now.. We lost alot of seatbelts last summer on certain club-dense destinations..
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Well, I guess what you gotta do is hand out the seatbelts to the pax as they board and make them return them as they leave -- sorta like the headsets.

Then in the cabin briefing show them how to reattach them -- and use them to whack hijackers on the noggin.
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I have flown passengers that after having been shown how to use the seatbelt, could not unbuckle it.
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Old 18th Dec 2001, 12:52
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Hmmmm! This could be a new money making idea for MO'L here ... he could give away tickets for free and charge each pax £50/€75 for the hire of the seatbelts!
 
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Can't say I've looked recently, but why /how are they so easily removed (short of using an implement which really should not be in the cabin)...?
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It has been going on for a while....I recall a news feature two or even three years back, where Braathens were losing two or three per flight; I was amazed to hear that it's still happening - thought that the fashion world had a much shorter turnover of new ideas! Surprising, too, that passengers can actually try it on...if you cut the belt material, you're soon going to be sussed, as as for whipping out a socket and wrench to unbolt them at the fixings
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Old 18th Dec 2001, 17:59
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Dead easy - there's a catch at the attachment points on the seat frame. Flip it up, and you disconnect the belt.
 
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As to why they are shown before flight, explained to me once as a/ a simple ANO pre-flight briefing requirement at first sight, but b/ most pax are used to the postion on the body and operation of a car seatbelt, and in a panic situation will likely revert to that; at least the briefing IF they pay any attention will highlight that there is a difference in operation and location.
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Everyone has to do things for the first time once. On my first flight ever (age 4, BEA DC-3 Turnhouse to Dyce), my mother was completely foxed by the seatbelt. A nice lady did mine for me. I think mother tied a knot in hers.

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I'm looking for something in a nice greenish-blue- which airline should I fly?
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Can you credit it? I thought it was bad enough when the "yachties" used to steal our life jackets from under the seat. What will it be next? I agree the airline should refuse the pax carriage back and tell them it is because there is no seat belt for them.
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Seatbelt instruction in the paxbrief is nothing- I'm required by law to point out the exits on a C172!
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While on the line I could never figure out where the ashtrays went, true, some are removed by the turnaround cleaners, who rather than empty out the ashtray, found it less time consuming to simply remove the ashtray from its socket and disguarg of the whole thing. Last year my wonder at the ashtray mystery was no more, I noticed, while on the beaches of Gran Canaria, that alot of people were bringng them with them and planting them in the sand, to use during their holidays!!
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