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Subtle and somewhat less confrontational pilot job actions would be to adopt the "Euro Method:" Coordinate multiple 24 and 48 hour work stoppages system wide. Management will be unable to ignore the collective bargaining process very long.
And no airline can sustain profitable operations with scab pilots.
And no airline can sustain profitable operations with scab pilots.
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To all of you brave Atlas Crewmembers
The USS Atlas is sinking, and instead of manning the life boats, the Captain (AAMT) and crew (Pilots) are fighting over the color of the wall paper.
Look around boys and girls, your company is failing, and you lost some very important current and future contracts these last few months. I dont think that MC would have just let this thing die like your current CEO is. MC would be out there in the world drumming up business like mad!!! Hell, he made Atlas work DURING an economic slow down!!! Your current management team are at HOME doing what they were hired for and what they know best, busting unions. Nobody is drumming up business, well, your marketing team is, whoever they are.
The finder of new business is gone. The grower of an empire is no more. All that is left is Union busters and evil people with proven records of hurting people and destroying companies.
Sell Mortimer, Sell!!!
The USS Atlas is sinking, and instead of manning the life boats, the Captain (AAMT) and crew (Pilots) are fighting over the color of the wall paper.
Look around boys and girls, your company is failing, and you lost some very important current and future contracts these last few months. I dont think that MC would have just let this thing die like your current CEO is. MC would be out there in the world drumming up business like mad!!! Hell, he made Atlas work DURING an economic slow down!!! Your current management team are at HOME doing what they were hired for and what they know best, busting unions. Nobody is drumming up business, well, your marketing team is, whoever they are.
The finder of new business is gone. The grower of an empire is no more. All that is left is Union busters and evil people with proven records of hurting people and destroying companies.
Sell Mortimer, Sell!!!
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really? So why was it seen somewhere in Europe just a mere 3 weeks ago with some Atlas top-shots in it?
Some people tell me they would like to sell it, but find no buyer. The thing with high priced, customized business jets is, that you cannot sell them easily, only at a huge discount, as the next owner might not like the interior. And to change that, it takes a lot of money. SO you're better off waiting for yur new airplane and have it furbished that buy a 'used' one and pay double interiors...
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really? So why was it seen somewhere in Europe just a mere 3 weeks ago with some Atlas top-shots in it?
Some people tell me they would like to sell it, but find no buyer. The thing with high priced, customized business jets is, that you cannot sell them easily, only at a huge discount, as the next owner might not like the interior. And to change that, it takes a lot of money. SO you're better off waiting for yur new airplane and have it furbished that buy a 'used' one and pay double interiors...
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Hunter58,411A,GUV, and all the other know it alls!!!!!
Where in Europe was this BBJ seen?, and which Atlas big shots were on board?
A couple of months back the company did announce that they were getting rid of the BBJ. I checked the Atlas website this morning,and under the question & answer forum, a crewmember asked the company what was the status of the 737 BBJ, and the company replied "The BBJ has been sold and is no longer in use with Atlas Air" dated 20/04/01.
Atlas Air was not the only operator of the 737 BBJ
Where in Europe was this BBJ seen?, and which Atlas big shots were on board?
A couple of months back the company did announce that they were getting rid of the BBJ. I checked the Atlas website this morning,and under the question & answer forum, a crewmember asked the company what was the status of the 737 BBJ, and the company replied "The BBJ has been sold and is no longer in use with Atlas Air" dated 20/04/01.
Atlas Air was not the only operator of the 737 BBJ
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BBJ is Boeing Business Jet I presume?
Who cares what they fly around in. They
can ride a magic carpet as far I'm concerned. What I'd really like to see is
the Atlas BOD's (Board of Directors,for all
you who love the use of abbreviations,in all
you say and do) nailed to the tarmac and have a herd of Budweiser Clydesdales walk over them with strict attention paid to the area of the family jewels. That'll teach 'em the meaning of respect. Either that or a
nice cross check from the blind side.
Hey Now!
Who cares what they fly around in. They
can ride a magic carpet as far I'm concerned. What I'd really like to see is
the Atlas BOD's (Board of Directors,for all
you who love the use of abbreviations,in all
you say and do) nailed to the tarmac and have a herd of Budweiser Clydesdales walk over them with strict attention paid to the area of the family jewels. That'll teach 'em the meaning of respect. Either that or a
nice cross check from the blind side.
Hey Now!
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Having had some involvement with corporate jets in the past, I can confirm that, once again, Hunter58 is correct.
The sale of any aircraft takes a fair amount of time - and that increases exponentially based on the degree of 'specialisation' of the aircraft. An aircraft like this is built to specific tastes and even if sold at a deep discount, isn't going to move overnight.
However, there's an easy way to see who's right - check the FAA database and see who it's registered to. What's it's tail number?
The sale of any aircraft takes a fair amount of time - and that increases exponentially based on the degree of 'specialisation' of the aircraft. An aircraft like this is built to specific tastes and even if sold at a deep discount, isn't going to move overnight.
However, there's an easy way to see who's right - check the FAA database and see who it's registered to. What's it's tail number?
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N737MC was seen in western Europe early last month. I will not disclose publicly where it was and who was on board, but I know it was Atlas people...
Oh, and before I forget it, it was never on MC himself or Atlas. Officially it is registered by General Electric Capital Services. That does not mean it's not to be considered part of Atlas.
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Oh, and before I forget it, it was never on MC himself or Atlas. Officially it is registered by General Electric Capital Services. That does not mean it's not to be considered part of Atlas.
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Press Release
SOURCE: Air Line Pilots Association, International
ALPA Atlas Pilots to Conduct Informational Picketing At Corporate Headquarters
HERNDON, Va., July 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Uniformed pilots and professional flight engineers of Atlas Airlines, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), will conduct two weeks of informational picketing at the company's headquarters in Purchase, NY, beginning on July 9, 2001, to voice their outrage with the economics/job security proposal recently offered by the company at the negotiating table.
"Despite our negotiators' good-faith efforts to bargain reasonably with Atlas management, this grossly inadequate economics and job security proposal is a slap in the face to the pilots and flight engineers who helped build this company,'' said John Caputo, chairman of the ALPA Atlas pilots' Strike Preparedness and Communications committees.
"Notwithstanding public statements to the contrary, the company's recent proposal calls into serious question whether Atlas management has the intention to rapidly conclude negotiations to achieve a fair collective bargaining agreement.''
The Atlas cockpit crews since April 2000 have been attempting to negotiate their first labor contract with airline management. The National Mediation Board assigned a federal mediator to facilitate the contract negotiations in September 2000.
Atlas is the world's third-largest cargo carrier and the world's largest operator of Boeing 747 freighters. Last year, the airline received the distinction of being ranked the world's most financially fit carrier. Celebrating its 70th anniversary, ALPA is the world's oldest and largest pilots union, representing 66,000 members at 47 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at http://www.alpa.org .
EVENT: ALPA Atlas Pilots' Informational Picketing at Corporate
Headquarters
DATES: July 9, 2001-July 20, 2001
TIMES: 7 a.m.-10 a.m. and 3 p.m.-5 p.m. daily during the two-week
duration
LOCATION: Atlas Air Corporate Headquarters, 2000 Westchester Avenue,
Purchase, NY
SOURCE: Air Line Pilots Association, International
SOURCE: Air Line Pilots Association, International
ALPA Atlas Pilots to Conduct Informational Picketing At Corporate Headquarters
HERNDON, Va., July 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Uniformed pilots and professional flight engineers of Atlas Airlines, represented by the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA), will conduct two weeks of informational picketing at the company's headquarters in Purchase, NY, beginning on July 9, 2001, to voice their outrage with the economics/job security proposal recently offered by the company at the negotiating table.
"Despite our negotiators' good-faith efforts to bargain reasonably with Atlas management, this grossly inadequate economics and job security proposal is a slap in the face to the pilots and flight engineers who helped build this company,'' said John Caputo, chairman of the ALPA Atlas pilots' Strike Preparedness and Communications committees.
"Notwithstanding public statements to the contrary, the company's recent proposal calls into serious question whether Atlas management has the intention to rapidly conclude negotiations to achieve a fair collective bargaining agreement.''
The Atlas cockpit crews since April 2000 have been attempting to negotiate their first labor contract with airline management. The National Mediation Board assigned a federal mediator to facilitate the contract negotiations in September 2000.
Atlas is the world's third-largest cargo carrier and the world's largest operator of Boeing 747 freighters. Last year, the airline received the distinction of being ranked the world's most financially fit carrier. Celebrating its 70th anniversary, ALPA is the world's oldest and largest pilots union, representing 66,000 members at 47 airlines in the U.S. and Canada. Visit the ALPA website at http://www.alpa.org .
EVENT: ALPA Atlas Pilots' Informational Picketing at Corporate
Headquarters
DATES: July 9, 2001-July 20, 2001
TIMES: 7 a.m.-10 a.m. and 3 p.m.-5 p.m. daily during the two-week
duration
LOCATION: Atlas Air Corporate Headquarters, 2000 Westchester Avenue,
Purchase, NY
SOURCE: Air Line Pilots Association, International
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Just what we need now at Atlas, another Senior Management promotion.........they're getting a bit top heavy!!!!!!!
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Atlas Air Promotes Fred L. deLeeuw to Senior Vice President, Strategic Planning
PURCHASE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 6, 2001--Atlas Air, Inc. announced that Fred deLeeuw, previously Vice President of Corporate Finance, has been promoted to Senior Vice President of Strategic Planning. In his new position, deLeeuw will be responsible for fleet planning, mergers and acquisitions, alliances and joint ventures.
He joined Atlas Air in 1996 after 26 years of experience in the passenger airline industry, coming from Vanguard Airlines where he had been Chief Financial Officer. Prior to his tenure at Vanguard, deLeeuw held various financial positions at Texas International Airlines, People Express, Continental Airlines and Northwest Air.
"Fred has made major contributions to Atlas Air's financial successes over the past several years. He has played a particularly key role during the Company's transitional period of the last few months, with dual responsibilities for many of the Company's financial matters as well as its ongoing strategic efforts. In every instance, he has performed exceptionally,'' said Richard Shuyler, Chief Executive Officer of Atlas Air, Inc. "This promotion is well deserved, and we are proud to welcome him to his new position.''
deLeeuw lives in Brookfield, Connecticut with his wife Jan and their four children.
Atlas Air, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:CGO - news) and is a United States certificated air carrier that operates a fleet of Boeing 747 freighters under ACMI contracts. These contracts include the provision by Atlas Air of the Aircraft, Crew, Maintenance and Insurance for some of the world's leading international carriers.
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Contact:
Atlas Air, Inc., Purchase
Vicki L. Foster, 914/701-8400
Press Release
Atlas Air Promotes Fred L. deLeeuw to Senior Vice President, Strategic Planning
PURCHASE, N.Y.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 6, 2001--Atlas Air, Inc. announced that Fred deLeeuw, previously Vice President of Corporate Finance, has been promoted to Senior Vice President of Strategic Planning. In his new position, deLeeuw will be responsible for fleet planning, mergers and acquisitions, alliances and joint ventures.
He joined Atlas Air in 1996 after 26 years of experience in the passenger airline industry, coming from Vanguard Airlines where he had been Chief Financial Officer. Prior to his tenure at Vanguard, deLeeuw held various financial positions at Texas International Airlines, People Express, Continental Airlines and Northwest Air.
"Fred has made major contributions to Atlas Air's financial successes over the past several years. He has played a particularly key role during the Company's transitional period of the last few months, with dual responsibilities for many of the Company's financial matters as well as its ongoing strategic efforts. In every instance, he has performed exceptionally,'' said Richard Shuyler, Chief Executive Officer of Atlas Air, Inc. "This promotion is well deserved, and we are proud to welcome him to his new position.''
deLeeuw lives in Brookfield, Connecticut with his wife Jan and their four children.
Atlas Air, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:CGO - news) and is a United States certificated air carrier that operates a fleet of Boeing 747 freighters under ACMI contracts. These contracts include the provision by Atlas Air of the Aircraft, Crew, Maintenance and Insurance for some of the world's leading international carriers.
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Contact:
Atlas Air, Inc., Purchase
Vicki L. Foster, 914/701-8400
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The original Atlas BBJ was actually gone before MC died. Just because it has the same tail number does not mean it belongs to, or even continues to work for Atlas. Having had a conversation with one of the two pilots who had crewed this aircraft, I can only assume this is true.
The original Atlas BBJ was actually gone before MC died. Just because it has the same tail number does not mean it belongs to, or even continues to work for Atlas. Having had a conversation with one of the two pilots who had crewed this aircraft, I can only assume this is true.
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Atlas management may severely lack leadership skills, but they're not suicidal. There is no way they'll allow it to go into a deep strike. They're just following the playbook, just like the rest of the airlines. Bad faith bargaining is just another management tool. Unforturnately, Mr. Bush seems to unembarassed by the apparent fact that he's in the ATA's back pocket. Airline management (pax) now has almost no incentive to bargain in good faith, so they won't.
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I certainly hope you guys there at Atlas are right! However I still have that unsure feeling in my gut. Remember, no one thought the folks at Eastern were suicidal either. However events got to the point that it just spun out of control with no turning back.
You have to remember, the folks you are negotiating with aren't managers. They were put into place to destroy your union and seem to be hell bent to do it.
Best of luck to you, if you win, it'll benefit us all.
You have to remember, the folks you are negotiating with aren't managers. They were put into place to destroy your union and seem to be hell bent to do it.
Best of luck to you, if you win, it'll benefit us all.
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From PlaneBusiness Banter (tm)
Volume 5, Issue 27
July 3, 2001
Holly Hegeman, Editor and Publisher
"On the opposite end of the spectrum, may we turn your attention now (drum roll please) to the PlaneBusiness Second Quarter Basement. We had eight airline stocks post double-digit losses on the quarter.
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Atlas Air...-50%
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"Hmmmm.
"Well, let's break it down this way. Who surprised us by being in this list? Who didn't?
"About the only stock that we can say genuinely surprised us by being here is Atlas Air (CGO:NYSE). What is the deal with Atlas anyway?
"Don't know if you caught it, but the company announced last week that Doug Carty, speaking of all things Canadian, had been named the new CFO of the company. Carty is the brother of Don, CEO and Chairman of American Airlines, and is the former CFO of Canadian Airlines.
"Now, I'm not sure we want to get into a full-blown discussion of the Canadian connection here, or if it is even relevant, but what is relevant is that Atlas Air stock has been in a freefall.
"Yes, the company has announced cost cutting measures. Yes, the company has admitted that its customers are having a rough time meeting the contract minimums of their contracts.
"But it does appear that Wall Street has decided, rightly or wrongly, that an Atlas Air without Michael Chowdry is just not the same animal it once was."
Volume 5, Issue 27
July 3, 2001
Holly Hegeman, Editor and Publisher
"On the opposite end of the spectrum, may we turn your attention now (drum roll please) to the PlaneBusiness Second Quarter Basement. We had eight airline stocks post double-digit losses on the quarter.
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Atlas Air...-50%
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"Hmmmm.
"Well, let's break it down this way. Who surprised us by being in this list? Who didn't?
"About the only stock that we can say genuinely surprised us by being here is Atlas Air (CGO:NYSE). What is the deal with Atlas anyway?
"Don't know if you caught it, but the company announced last week that Doug Carty, speaking of all things Canadian, had been named the new CFO of the company. Carty is the brother of Don, CEO and Chairman of American Airlines, and is the former CFO of Canadian Airlines.
"Now, I'm not sure we want to get into a full-blown discussion of the Canadian connection here, or if it is even relevant, but what is relevant is that Atlas Air stock has been in a freefall.
"Yes, the company has announced cost cutting measures. Yes, the company has admitted that its customers are having a rough time meeting the contract minimums of their contracts.
"But it does appear that Wall Street has decided, rightly or wrongly, that an Atlas Air without Michael Chowdry is just not the same animal it once was."
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Reckon that's a right switched on "stragetic planning" guy they just got...so many "good" airlines behind him...look out pilots BOHICA as we say....know what his strategy might just be
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