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Old 26th Nov 2001, 13:59
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I appreciate what you're saying but there aren't that many 1-11 operators out there and equally there aren't many people handing out type ratings in the current market. Besides, believe it or not some of the EAAC pilots actually enjoy working there.
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 15:04
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I do not know the circumstances at EAC. For a start, I understand their purchase of the B747 is merely rumour. I do not know whether their BAC-111 pilots have a seniority agreement.

While my heart goes out to any pilot colleague finding him/herself made redundant in today's environment, I still hold that, where an employer treats employees badly, it is in the long term interests of the employees to depart the scene, however much they may 'enjoy' flying for that employer.

There is rarely gain without at least some pain, as the vast majority of us know all too well.
 
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All this chat about the 1-11 crews, you appear to have overlooked the 4 B732 crews who were given their marching orders and now have nothing better to do than post messages on this oft anoying forum for whingeing. Nice
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Old 26th Nov 2001, 16:39
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The salary proposed by the 'UK charter company' is £60K for captains, £40K for F/Os and F/Es. Strong rumours around that it IS European Aviation.
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 03:42
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Going back to the original thread here.. EAC purchased two 747-136's from BA a few years ago. The plan was to fly them to Bournemouth Hurn - however, the local Airport Authority had different ideas and prevented EAC (not EAAC!) from bringing them to BOH. In the event EAC had to store them (no doubt at some cost) at Charteroux in France, prior to reselling them.

So, unless "BIAA" have had a change of heart, don't expect them to actually turn up at Hurn.

(...& before the more observant plane-spotter points it out - "BIAA" does let 747SP's in for storage - but not 747-classics! - don't ask!!!)

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Old 27th Nov 2001, 13:17
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EAC are paying $100,000 each for these aircraft. 1 is for spares and the other are for further use. They've all recently had a "B" check. I believe 1 will be based in Manchester.

Wet leasing to BA is a thought because of the fact that EAC can operate them much cheaper!!
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 13:28
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The ex BA classics are due for heavy (major) checks and the powerplants are approaching time ex also.
DXB which was dumped at Kemble to be scapped might gets some care and attention and be ferried back to LHR for gear retraction checks prior to being delivered to HKG.
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flange lubricator - I think you're missing a '0' or so there ... even in the current market the avionics alone are worth several times that!
 
Old 27th Nov 2001, 17:11
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So Guv , good to see you are actually talking bout the thread rather than carping with that other guy . Cost wise though, surely it depends on how many buyers there are out there , and there just cant be too many , so if you are desperate to sell some a/c , its the rules of supply and demand (as you have harped on about before).
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 17:23
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Harping and carping, eh? Good username, dear chap. Bet you're a delight to work with too.

Assuming I am 'that other guy' you complain that The Guvnor carps with, I would ask who appointed you as the 'thread policeman' here?

The point is that it seems highly unlikely that serviceable 74 Classics will be sold for a trifling £100,000. If you wish to hold that it is true, and down to nothing more than the laws of supply and demand, then so be it. But you do no service to accuracy whereas The Guv has tried to set a simple typo error straight. 'Nuf said?
 
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dullcopilot,
you can easily sell used TCAS II v7 set with mode-s transponders for $70-80k. then comms, gps, etc - another $10-20k. i can only guess what is the cost of aluminium you can get from fuselage
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Old 27th Nov 2001, 21:32
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OK well i must be dull , with a user name like that. sorry , i work for EAC , so Ill be the last to hear what is going on , have no idea about costs of a/c parts , but know a bit about markets, a tcas bit will cost that if there is demand , do i have to say it again ? in answer to an earlier question on the thread 7 737 pilots got made redundant .
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Dullcopilot - don't listen to that tilii - you are a delight to work with. Or rather you were back in the good old days when I had a purpose in life. Sigh.
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dullcopilot, you certainly weren't dull when that Mr. Moretti character was in town.
Ciao Rustico.
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Mr Moretti???? Was that a good piece of Sicilian scandal I missed??
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Given all this discussion about the ex BA 742's - two appeared recentlly and were stored at MAN.

One was used last weekend for a security exercise but the other has disappeared.

Who owns them ?
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Are we talking horse's heads in beds? Oh, how we laughed.
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There both still there, the one that 'disappeared' is being used to test the new cloaking device.
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Bush .. horses .. beds .. head .. too many malaga s ,
Rusty .. good luck in Dublin , must do beers

luddite , Mr morretti is an Italian ladyboy

back to the topic , the 74 s are going to stn , apparently
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Old 28th Nov 2001, 21:19
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How difficult is it to extend an AOC, anyone know?
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