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Old 26th Jun 2001, 17:54
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Noticed the following in todays Times. Anyone got any further information or is this run-of-the-mill stuff these days?

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Heathrow drama

A South African Airways jumbo jet from Johannesburg was forced to abort its landing at Heathrow when it was less than 350ft from the ground after a BA 747 that had arrived 60 seconds earlier missed its exit from the runway. The SAA jet went into a steep climb and landed safely a few minutes later.
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Old 26th Jun 2001, 18:05
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sorry, not remotely news-worthy or interesting. very definitely run-of-the-mill.
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 19:04
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Sensationalism after the LHR near miss.
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 19:31
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Reminds me of a Falcon 900 going around in Vero Beach, Florida, because a chinese student from FlightSafety (who had just landed in a Cherokee) didn't understand how ATC wanted him to exit the runway. Nice words followed on the frequency...
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 19:37
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That cr@p was in The Times?
How are the mighty fallen
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 20:04
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Isn't a steep climb pretty essential when going around or am I missing something?

Looks like the journos are up to their usual standard!
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 20:09
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The journos are indeed up to their usual standard but in a publication which normally steers clear of this type of 'sensationalism'.

Would have normally imagined this story coming from certain tabloids, but there you go, nothing is safe from dodgy articles
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 20:20
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I wonder what they'll say when the Wallabies have finished in Brisbane!!!
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 21:45
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Bored now!!!!
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 22:16
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Old 26th Jun 2001, 22:29
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The Times certainly has gone downhill. it'll soon be advertising on tv as the SUPER SOARAWAY SIZZLING Times. Doesn'y quite have the same ring to it.
Sensational journalism at its usual worst
 
Old 26th Jun 2001, 22:53
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If the papers and "journo's" are writing about these stories surely they are happening with some degree of repitition, as pointed out by my able friend. Now consider this, if you have one half of this forum writing about RVSM stories and their potential consequences and the other half babbling on about privatization of ATC and the potential impact it may have with ever increasing number of movements surely these incidents can sparsly afford to become a regular feature of air travel, or an irregular news story.

You can look at it like this, if a car carrying 4 peolpe runs a red light who is ever going to know, a bus with 50 people maybe the passangers will have something to say, a train carying 150 people, you bet the peolpe using that line everyday will want to know a little more, what about the South African Airways boeing 747 and the a/c that had not vacated the runway?

Yes granted there are proceedures and well established proceedures at that, but what about the one that could'nt get way, bird strike, unfavourable wind conditions.

Keeping these incidents in the lime light is healthy, it should not only be shared with us few on pprune, people should have the right to know every risk associated with whatever they choose to do, particularly when they are not in control of the outcome. Keep it in the press, drive the law makers to make correct descisions and maybe then people will feel more relaxed

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Old 27th Jun 2001, 00:24
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Village Flyer,

This isn't even an 'incident'. This is more like giving way at a busy junction - not running a red light! It is not even remotely newsworthy. Whilst a landing is the preferred option a G/A is always briefed for and is no more dramatic (usually) than a landing (usually). Reporting this G/A is just a waste of ink and trees.

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Old 27th Jun 2001, 00:35
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I wondered why it went around. We vacated the runway (expeditiously) just ahead of the BA 747 to be confronted with the SAA 744 drifting to the south of centreline (09L) as it climbed away.

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Old 27th Jun 2001, 00:54
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While I agree not newsworthy, I wouldn't take a go-around quite so lightly.

Many have been killed performing this "routine" manoeuvre.
 
Old 27th Jun 2001, 06:10
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Yeah, and many more during cruise. What are you trying to say?
 
Old 27th Jun 2001, 10:20
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and many more during landing, which I´m sure can be described as 'a fairly dangerous maneuver'

LONDON (27 June) - It was reported here today that an XXX Airways Jumbo impacted the ground at more than 160 mph at Heathrow Airport today. An airline spokesman refused to comment, but people were heard to remark that it was fortunate indeed that the pilot had his wheels extended and managed to cunningly steer the heavy jet away from buildings to impact the ground on a long grey tarred strip with white markings on it.
There were no injuries.

 
Old 27th Jun 2001, 11:56
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Since The Times was taken over by News International it has become a downmarket broadsheet if that is not a contradiction in terms. I stopped reading it a long time ago. Mr. Murdoch has a lot to answer for relating to the standard of his comics.
 
Old 27th Jun 2001, 11:58
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NEAR MISS ON TRAINS WITH 600 PASSENGERS ON BOARD

Today a train bound for Victoria made an last minute unexpected stop at a Red light due to a previous train failing to exit the station on time. the 2 trains were belived to be just 100 meters apart and seconds from disaster. One eye witness stated all of a sudden the train started to slow, there was a loud noise which sounded like brakes beeing applied and all of a sudden we were stationary with no platform around. The train continued it's journey uneventfully Contrix were unavailable for comment at this time.

The point is Trains can be just as lethal as aircraft but the press don't make such a fuss because generally the public are not as nervous of train travel as they are of flying. the press are feeding on people's fears as always

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Old 27th Jun 2001, 14:00
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I agre that pax are more scared about flying than trains or cars and we all know the stats! That's life. However, there is no doubting that The Times *IS* a tabloid broadsheet.

It still has many interesting articles and writers but I stopped reading it (after nearly 20 years) when Murdoch's Men got too lurid in their reporting. A fairly routine bank robbery was described as being started by 'a hail of bullets'.

I have been Independent for many years.

(Just to throw fat on the fire) In 35 years as pax, I have NEVER had a G/A. So, could someone do one for me next week on my next LHR/EDI?

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