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Iranian Plane Crash

Old 13th Feb 2002, 14:02
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The latest:. .Wrong (opposite RW) ILS frequensy has been set by the navigator! (domestic crew)
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 14:41
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The aircraft involved is msn 91A871 built in 1991 so not that old.

Having reviewed the accident reports held by the Commission for Flight Safety in Moscow and Tupolev's records, I would say that 'technical faults/failures' figure no more often as factors in TU154 crashes than they do in western types - there are some of course but not many.

However, do TU154s put a greater demand for effective CRM than western-types? With pilot, co-pilot, flight engineer, navigator and possibly radio operator, it strikes me that flying one of these puts a greater demand on correctly co-ordinating all these people.

Could some of the TU154 drivers on this forum who have also flown western types offer a view?

And just to avoid misunderstandings, none of my comments are intended as speculation on what factors may or may not be significant in this accident.
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 15:35
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1. There is no any CRM in Soviets still!. .2. The crew workload is based on the . . navigator's commands (when the navigator is . . included into a crew).
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 16:07
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Ref 'raas767'. .Sounds like your also a refined three crew man, and as such, you're a friend of mine forever!. .Cheers.
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 19:08
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About 50 crews from Russia were working for the Iran Air before, they are saying about difficalt approach between mountains without a radar control.. .Iran Air preffers Tu-154M due to very good climb performance.
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Old 13th Feb 2002, 19:41
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LMD,

You mistook my drift - the point was to show that the 727 has been an extensively used and successful aircraft.

A bit irrelevant now anyway. Condolences to all involved.
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The russian sim instructors are saying that they have refused to sign off the sim checkride to some Iranian pilots, but any way they are flying!. .And what the flight instructors are saying - these guys are not using the checklists and very often forgetting to set the QNH!!!. .I believe them.. .The most TU154 crashes - the human factor.
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