Airport screening ends in uproar
Just had a look at the consultantspeak describing the Screener Training Plan -- most definitely the public will see that something is being done by people who likely couldn't get a C150 started, let alone get it to another airport undamaged.
It all so richly reminds me of the movie, Chicken Run.
In the meantime, we see that the passengers, in spite of the pronouncements from high authority, have twigged to the situation and know exactly what to do. All the would-be bombers, hijackers and air ragers quickly find themselves piled on by passengers who know that their self-preservation relies solely on their own actions.
Agreed that it is worth screening for guns, bombs and large knives. Leaving off intrusive searches for everyday tools might just reduce the hassle factor that passengers may again enjoy flying.
If instead of treating passengers and crew as potential terrorists, they were treated and educated as important resources ready to counter terrorist attempts, they might even feel welcome.
It all so richly reminds me of the movie, Chicken Run.
In the meantime, we see that the passengers, in spite of the pronouncements from high authority, have twigged to the situation and know exactly what to do. All the would-be bombers, hijackers and air ragers quickly find themselves piled on by passengers who know that their self-preservation relies solely on their own actions.
Agreed that it is worth screening for guns, bombs and large knives. Leaving off intrusive searches for everyday tools might just reduce the hassle factor that passengers may again enjoy flying.
If instead of treating passengers and crew as potential terrorists, they were treated and educated as important resources ready to counter terrorist attempts, they might even feel welcome.
Grandpa Aerotart
Reminds me of that scene in Flying High Two where all the terrorists are coming onboard armed to the gills and then a little old lady sets off the metal detector and gets lept on!!!
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Chuck <img src="frown.gif" border="0">
Excellent observations up there.
Pegasus77: Your story is amazing. My impression of "European' airport personnel (before 9/11) was that, in general, they are more intelligent than over hier in den USA.
Do the German "FAA" not allow security people to use any common sense? Or were they just extremely bored (gelangweilt)? Or are they really "nicht so schlau wie vorher"/dumm/doof/dickkopfig, or just very unhappy with their jobs or the pay?
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Pegasus77: Your story is amazing. My impression of "European' airport personnel (before 9/11) was that, in general, they are more intelligent than over hier in den USA.
Do the German "FAA" not allow security people to use any common sense? Or were they just extremely bored (gelangweilt)? Or are they really "nicht so schlau wie vorher"/dumm/doof/dickkopfig, or just very unhappy with their jobs or the pay?
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Jet Jackal made a good point about some reasons to stay calm, not just that many of us might have some of the better jobs, and we can't really argue or refuse searches.
If you have ever been through a divorce, just remember the phrase that can (did) help, and can help you in an airport, from Shakespeare: "misery loves company". Which means, if the person can NOT drag you down to their level of unhappiness or limited authority (only right here and now), they are always disappointed. You have won a small victory.
Also, you might have young kids watching you too. All of the personnel I've encountered since Sept 11 have actually tried to be tactful and somewhat respectful, even if it looks silly to undue one's belt for a few seconds.
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If you have ever been through a divorce, just remember the phrase that can (did) help, and can help you in an airport, from Shakespeare: "misery loves company". Which means, if the person can NOT drag you down to their level of unhappiness or limited authority (only right here and now), they are always disappointed. You have won a small victory.
Also, you might have young kids watching you too. All of the personnel I've encountered since Sept 11 have actually tried to be tactful and somewhat respectful, even if it looks silly to undue one's belt for a few seconds.
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I'm annoyed by this....and I just fly helos.
The terrorist have really won when all this bull**** occurs to us aviatiors.
When was the last time any of you hijacked your own aircraft?
Perhaps they should fully automate the cockpit, 'cause after all, Osama proved the aircraft is a weapon itself. I pity you guys with all the, turn the belt buckle over, lift your shoe crap, get scanned upteen times and god help you if you carry a leatherman. Its just menial power tripping by security. I hate going through security everytime now. I was asked for photo ID boarding a bandit, leaving a place called Timmins in Northern Ontario to Moosenee. Moose is an Indian reservation (1000 people tops) about 400 NM from the middle of nowhere!!!!!!
The terrorist have really won when all this bull**** occurs to us aviatiors.
When was the last time any of you hijacked your own aircraft?
Perhaps they should fully automate the cockpit, 'cause after all, Osama proved the aircraft is a weapon itself. I pity you guys with all the, turn the belt buckle over, lift your shoe crap, get scanned upteen times and god help you if you carry a leatherman. Its just menial power tripping by security. I hate going through security everytime now. I was asked for photo ID boarding a bandit, leaving a place called Timmins in Northern Ontario to Moosenee. Moose is an Indian reservation (1000 people tops) about 400 NM from the middle of nowhere!!!!!!
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Thanks 411A, for setting me straight on that last but not least major consp. D'you ever get up to NYC? Be interesting to share a beer or two.
I'm with Chimbu in thinking that sensible and official intervention is necessary. Else we'll all be subjected to more silliness. . .Kampai.
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Once again I was given the opportunity to witness EGLL security at their finest, this time as a pax. I'm off duty on my way home connecting through Heathrow, stopped by a nylon strap in the companionway prior to boarding the 777. Yes the nylon strap will stop most things, but just in case, some lucky customers will be allowed to be searched, yes I was one. My 2 inch eyeglass screwdriver was confiscated, hell of a weapon, but my carry on plant stand, wrapped, was not opened. The smalll tactical nuke that was inside the plant stand was obviously a non threat. Seriously though folks, if small screwdrivers are considered weapons, then why wasn't my carry on plant stand opened? I wonder if any of these security persons really know what constitutes a threat or are they just doing what some management ****** has stated without any thought process. Oh yes, none of the 15 kids with backpacks were stopped...hmmm.. .Enough of this rant, it won't get any better until someone with a brain gets involved.
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