Intoxicated SAS Pilots?
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Intoxicated SAS Pilots?
Hi Folks!
Could anyone give me some info on what happened to those two drunk SAS pilots that landed i CPH a wilded ago. I think they were grounded, its kind of odd yhat I have not seen anything about this in the media!
What I know is that the purser reported them to flight ops from the out station, and at CPH company rep. and the police were waiting.
Thanx,
Could anyone give me some info on what happened to those two drunk SAS pilots that landed i CPH a wilded ago. I think they were grounded, its kind of odd yhat I have not seen anything about this in the media!
What I know is that the purser reported them to flight ops from the out station, and at CPH company rep. and the police were waiting.
Thanx,
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Uhoh.. don't go there dude..
Rumours and allegations of a negative or derogatory nature regarding SAS could lead to, or will cause you to be removed from pprune and its affiliate sites..
see the Scandi forum..
Rumours and allegations of a negative or derogatory nature regarding SAS could lead to, or will cause you to be removed from pprune and its affiliate sites..
see the Scandi forum..
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LRdriver, way off young man. (As you often are)
Nobody has been banned for saying negative stuff about SAS. A person was banned, because he (somehow) fiddled with other peoples posts.
Wind your neck in.
KEWR, I´ve heard a story along those lines too, but have no idea as to what happened to the two.
To find out what species LRwannabe is, see his post in the Scandi forum.
Nobody has been banned for saying negative stuff about SAS. A person was banned, because he (somehow) fiddled with other peoples posts.
Wind your neck in.
KEWR, I´ve heard a story along those lines too, but have no idea as to what happened to the two.
To find out what species LRwannabe is, see his post in the Scandi forum.
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From: Down south, USA.
Ironbutt 57: Roger that: we left there this morning, on a beautiful day. Whenever thunderstorms are in the area (over land), the airlines's passengers might as well assume that most flights have major delays or could get canceled. Don't walk around downtown EWR at night! A policemen told a few of our crewmembers to ride in his squad car back to their hotel.
Outside of Newark, New Jersey has many attactive sections, i.e. along with other towns, Morristown is a really nice one, and the countryside appears to have some large sections of forest with undeveloped lakes etc, at least from flying vectors at 5,000'.
Outside of Newark, New Jersey has many attactive sections, i.e. along with other towns, Morristown is a really nice one, and the countryside appears to have some large sections of forest with undeveloped lakes etc, at least from flying vectors at 5,000'.
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Well to answer KEWR question about intoxicated SAS pilots a while ago. It's nothing that has been up in the media over here. Do you know what year this was?
I do recall the North West DC-10 crew that got caught flying intoxicated. Their laywer tried to defend them saying they were alcoholics and needed to the drunk to fly. Ofcause they should and were convicted.
Recently there was an british TV special on entoxicated british pilots. Maybe thats the one you remember? You see in the UK, you are not allowed to fly if you are physically impaired. Thats for the license, obviously the companies have theis more restrictive rules. I am sure that also these pilots were fired.
This brings me to my point. If there was such a case within the last 10 yeas, I am sure someone would remember, and these pilots would be fired.
Now, tax evasion, thats an other matter....but a tax criminal is only a very sane person in this country..
I do recall the North West DC-10 crew that got caught flying intoxicated. Their laywer tried to defend them saying they were alcoholics and needed to the drunk to fly. Ofcause they should and were convicted.
Recently there was an british TV special on entoxicated british pilots. Maybe thats the one you remember? You see in the UK, you are not allowed to fly if you are physically impaired. Thats for the license, obviously the companies have theis more restrictive rules. I am sure that also these pilots were fired.
This brings me to my point. If there was such a case within the last 10 yeas, I am sure someone would remember, and these pilots would be fired.
Now, tax evasion, thats an other matter....but a tax criminal is only a very sane person in this country..
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If this story is true,then it must have been a very well-kept secret,indeed,as there would obviously have been rumours going around at our crew-rooms.None have for a considerable amount of time.
Any info on time,flights,etc.?
Any info on time,flights,etc.?
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I know one story from TOS, where an anonymous passenger had reported the cockpit crew for drinking while they were flying OSL-TOS. They were arrested in the terminal and brought to the local police station with no explanation.
It turned out that one of the stewardesses had brought some cans of mineral water to the cockpit crew that looked very similar to the Mack Beer cans.
This is probably not the same story, but it certainly shows how touchy this issue is.
Nick.
It turned out that one of the stewardesses had brought some cans of mineral water to the cockpit crew that looked very similar to the Mack Beer cans.
This is probably not the same story, but it certainly shows how touchy this issue is.
Nick.
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This story is (would have been?) interesting, because here are at least a couple of issues that would rise a debate:
Firstly, of course: The "normal" drinking and flying issue.
Secondly: What kind of protection do we pilots have against such accusations?
Thirdly: Why the hell did the purser "allow" the intoxicated flight crew (if they were intoxicated) to fly the leg to CPH in the first place?
Nick. (Again
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Firstly, of course: The "normal" drinking and flying issue.
Secondly: What kind of protection do we pilots have against such accusations?
Thirdly: Why the hell did the purser "allow" the intoxicated flight crew (if they were intoxicated) to fly the leg to CPH in the first place?
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Hi Nick
I have to agree with you - it is indeed a touchy issue. As far as I have understood we can now be drug and alcoholtested in AMS on a random basis without the security of being separated from the passengers or having union/legal advice. I for one wouldn`t like to be forced to blow in a balloon in front of my passengers - and them not knowing if the test was a random one or caused by a reasonable suspicion. On the other hand the passengers have a right to be transported by sober pilots - I would just prefere to have the tests carried out in connection with the annual medical renewal.
The rumour about 2 SAS pilots landing in CPH intoxicated has to be a rumour only (hopefully) - at least I have heard nothing about it outhere (and rumours like that would normally travel in excess of the speed of sound
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brgds
I have to agree with you - it is indeed a touchy issue. As far as I have understood we can now be drug and alcoholtested in AMS on a random basis without the security of being separated from the passengers or having union/legal advice. I for one wouldn`t like to be forced to blow in a balloon in front of my passengers - and them not knowing if the test was a random one or caused by a reasonable suspicion. On the other hand the passengers have a right to be transported by sober pilots - I would just prefere to have the tests carried out in connection with the annual medical renewal.
The rumour about 2 SAS pilots landing in CPH intoxicated has to be a rumour only (hopefully) - at least I have heard nothing about it outhere (and rumours like that would normally travel in excess of the speed of sound
)brgds
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Knold,
What you`re saying is that they stay in the hotel room enjoying the gourmet left over crew-meals. But that`s only the danish SAS pilots ?!........I know, below the belt, sorry.
KEWR,
Why did you start a thread with this subject. Do you really think it`s of interest to other ppruners. I think not. Most of the response will be off target, like mine.
What you`re saying is that they stay in the hotel room enjoying the gourmet left over crew-meals. But that`s only the danish SAS pilots ?!........I know, below the belt, sorry.
KEWR,
Why did you start a thread with this subject. Do you really think it`s of interest to other ppruners. I think not. Most of the response will be off target, like mine.