eirjet landing at wrong airport - report out today
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eirjet landing at wrong airport - report out today
http://www.unison.ie/breakingnews/in...ca=9&si=104353
A report out today says the pilot of an Eirjet flight that landed at the wrong airport in Derry last year was unaware of the existence of the second facility.
The Dublin-based flight, operated on behalf of Ryanair, should have landed at Derry Airport, but instead touched down at Ballykelly airfield five miles away.
Today's report by British investigators says the crew of the Airbus A320 had problems with their landing instruments and requested permission to make a visual landing at Derry.
It says the captain tried in vain to obtain a copy of the airport charts and would have been aware of the existence of Ballykelly airfield had he been successful.
However, he didn't know there was a second airfield and assumed when he saw it that it was Derry Airport.
A report out today says the pilot of an Eirjet flight that landed at the wrong airport in Derry last year was unaware of the existence of the second facility.
The Dublin-based flight, operated on behalf of Ryanair, should have landed at Derry Airport, but instead touched down at Ballykelly airfield five miles away.
Today's report by British investigators says the crew of the Airbus A320 had problems with their landing instruments and requested permission to make a visual landing at Derry.
It says the captain tried in vain to obtain a copy of the airport charts and would have been aware of the existence of Ballykelly airfield had he been successful.
However, he didn't know there was a second airfield and assumed when he saw it that it was Derry Airport.
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You'll find a lot of opinions about landing at the wrong airport on the original thread which discussed this incident, here. PPRUNE has a pretty good search function (on the yellow bar at the top of the screen) so you can find out whether your question has already been addressed. Enjoy!
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No doubt your instructor will give appropriate guidance in time.
Learn from other peoples' mistakes - you will not live long enough to make them all yourself.
Things just conspired against them resulting in their error. If only the chain could have been broken at some point to prevent the incident.
There but for the grace of God go I.
ps. Somewhat stormy in sunny Troon today.
Learn from other peoples' mistakes - you will not live long enough to make them all yourself.
Things just conspired against them resulting in their error. If only the chain could have been broken at some point to prevent the incident.
There but for the grace of God go I.
ps. Somewhat stormy in sunny Troon today.
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Every good lie is 80% truth. Once you think you know what you're doing, your own sense of conviction is capable of carrying you the extra 20%. And that's when you're in trouble. Awareness, all the time, is everything.
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Slightly off-thread, but having read 'nosewheelfirst's' comment,
and for a 'pure-bred' Boeing pilot, how do you initiate a g/a in an Airbus if there is no button to press for g/a power? SURELY in the scarebus you do not have to do it..............manually..........?
"or pressing the go-around buttons"
its a
airbus it does not have them...
its a
airbus it does not have them...
The Boeing is SOOO much more sophisticated............
Events can conspire . .
MANY years ago had radar positioning to an airfield for visual circuit.
Radar controller: "You are now downwind."
Basil looked right, saw runway and said "Thanks, changing to tower."
Calls all went normally and cleared to land.
Idly looking at ramp noticed numerous maritime aircraft.
Thinks: "They don't have Nimrods where I'm going!"
Oops, off we go with a sharp 180 right to Lossie . . to whom I'd been speaking but neither of us noticed that I wasn't in their circuit
Lou, Too right. If I could guarantee that I'd never touch an aeroplane again I could be really self-righteous
MANY years ago had radar positioning to an airfield for visual circuit.
Radar controller: "You are now downwind."
Basil looked right, saw runway and said "Thanks, changing to tower."
Calls all went normally and cleared to land.
Idly looking at ramp noticed numerous maritime aircraft.
Thinks: "They don't have Nimrods where I'm going!"
Oops, off we go with a sharp 180 right to Lossie . . to whom I'd been speaking but neither of us noticed that I wasn't in their circuit
Lou, Too right. If I could guarantee that I'd never touch an aeroplane again I could be really self-righteous
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Crosspaul,
Another thing I ALMOST learned the hard way in early PPL days is to carefully study the layout of an airport you've never been to. The one in question (in California) had a very narrow runway (25R), a wide one (25L) and an equally wide taxiway left of 25L. Having been cleared to land on 25R, I made a beautifully wind-anticipated turn towards... 25L (thinking 25R was the taxiway). And because the controller had delayed my base turn for traffic, I was too far to read the numbers... Once in sight of said numbers, I made a very embarassed call to the tower who just let me land on 25L.
So check it's the right airport AND the right runway
P
Another thing I ALMOST learned the hard way in early PPL days is to carefully study the layout of an airport you've never been to. The one in question (in California) had a very narrow runway (25R), a wide one (25L) and an equally wide taxiway left of 25L. Having been cleared to land on 25R, I made a beautifully wind-anticipated turn towards... 25L (thinking 25R was the taxiway). And because the controller had delayed my base turn for traffic, I was too far to read the numbers... Once in sight of said numbers, I made a very embarassed call to the tower who just let me land on 25L.
So check it's the right airport AND the right runway
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When I joined BOAC as a sprightly Second Officer in 1970, the Boeing 707 had an item on the landing check which read "Airfield and Runway Identified and Crosschecked" to which the handing pilot had to respond XXXX airport Runway YY.
All I can add is that there, but for the grace of God .......
All I can add is that there, but for the grace of God .......
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Does anyone remember?
I seem to remember many years ago, an Air India pilot flying 707 (I think), landed at Northolt instead of Heathrow! He had seen the gasometers which were regularly used as a visual aid, unfortunately he went the wrong side and landed at Northolt. In order to get the 707 out, they had to strip out all excess weight, minimal fuel to hop over to Heathrow!
Shortly after, the word "NO" was painted in big letters on the offending gasometer! Hi-Tech
Shortly after, the word "NO" was painted in big letters on the offending gasometer! Hi-Tech
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Many,many years ago we had an An24 which was landed at a helicopter base in Larnaca,instead of Larnaca airport.The military had moved the heli's on the grass ,to wash them,so the pilot mistakenly landed on the parking area....incredibly small strip of pavement.He was a bit confused by the surrounding fence,but jumped over it with no problem,just to be more confused by the military personnel which surrounded the airplane,making photo's.They couldn't believe a plane could land in that space.
Although the company marks were imediatelly covered (coming from a communist country),there were some photo's in the local newspapers,saying that " If you want to visit a NATO base fly with XXX "...
We did a lot of tests at home,with a similar aircraft,in order to find out exactly the max TOW to be able to take-off from there..
I also know of one crew landing a 707 in Beirut,on a rwy closed for working,scaring the hell out of the workers,and stopping meters away from the buldozers...they were used with that rwy,making many flights a month there,so...
That was the golden age of aviation,a lot of fun flying...
Although the company marks were imediatelly covered (coming from a communist country),there were some photo's in the local newspapers,saying that " If you want to visit a NATO base fly with XXX "...
We did a lot of tests at home,with a similar aircraft,in order to find out exactly the max TOW to be able to take-off from there..
I also know of one crew landing a 707 in Beirut,on a rwy closed for working,scaring the hell out of the workers,and stopping meters away from the buldozers...they were used with that rwy,making many flights a month there,so...
That was the golden age of aviation,a lot of fun flying...
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Happened in Polad too
The Turkish 737 from Antalia landed yesterday evening
at EPKS militarty base instead of EPPO Poznan airport.
(Flight SHY335)
In the EPPO charts there is a clear statment:
DO NOT MISTAKE KRZESINY aerodrome
13.8 km (7.4 NM) SE OF POZNAN / Ławica
WHEN APPROACHING RWY 29
Unfortunately passengers held for almost 3 hours by military.
More here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239414
at EPKS militarty base instead of EPPO Poznan airport.
(Flight SHY335)
In the EPPO charts there is a clear statment:
DO NOT MISTAKE KRZESINY aerodrome
13.8 km (7.4 NM) SE OF POZNAN / Ławica
WHEN APPROACHING RWY 29
Unfortunately passengers held for almost 3 hours by military.
More here:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239414