UAL Attempted Hijack
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Mark D - well the answer to your point has been made; "If it was my call, we'd be politely profiling passengers (yes, even and especially Arabs and Muslims). I'd immediately deport illegal aliens, starting with ones from problem countries, and stop immigration from those countries as well, until we got control of the problem."
There are fingerprint recognition systems in use at Disneyland etc .. I'm simply stating that the airlines need to become far far better at understanding exactly who is buying tickets.. .Criminal records, political extremeism, religious fanatics...we need to know.. .If the database doesn't know - then they don't travel.
(To add to that stated by others..I would have used the pointed end too!)
There are fingerprint recognition systems in use at Disneyland etc .. I'm simply stating that the airlines need to become far far better at understanding exactly who is buying tickets.. .Criminal records, political extremeism, religious fanatics...we need to know.. .If the database doesn't know - then they don't travel.
(To add to that stated by others..I would have used the pointed end too!)
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I'm all for it ! Profile them, interview them then ban them if necessary !
Problem is - in UK anyway - that you'll have every PC moron screaming about human rights etc etc etc.
Just look at Camp X-ray at the moment ! Personally I'd like to see every one of the Al-Qaeda & Taleban prisoners publically executed on CNN & Sky - after reminding viewers with the graphical coverage of Sep 11th before they get the chop. That just may jolt a few memories, and reinstate just what it is we are trying to achieve with all this.
Terrorists don't play by the Geneva Convention or any other rule-book, so why the hell should we when dealing with the scum ?
PC will tragically be the downfall of the West ! Until we get our acts together anyway !
Once again, great job by the UAL crew ! ( shame it wasn't the sharp-end though IMHO ! )
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Problem is - in UK anyway - that you'll have every PC moron screaming about human rights etc etc etc.
Just look at Camp X-ray at the moment ! Personally I'd like to see every one of the Al-Qaeda & Taleban prisoners publically executed on CNN & Sky - after reminding viewers with the graphical coverage of Sep 11th before they get the chop. That just may jolt a few memories, and reinstate just what it is we are trying to achieve with all this.
Terrorists don't play by the Geneva Convention or any other rule-book, so why the hell should we when dealing with the scum ?
PC will tragically be the downfall of the West ! Until we get our acts together anyway !
Once again, great job by the UAL crew ! ( shame it wasn't the sharp-end though IMHO ! )
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Roadtrip hits the nail on the head.. .Short term history refresher on Arab/Muslim extremist terrorist events.. .1972 Olympics. .World trade center 1993. .Attempted Pope assasination. .Pan Am 103. .Numerous embassy bombings. .Beirut Marine barracks. .Berlin disco bombing. .Invasion of Kuwait. .US embassy hostages in Tehran. .Numerous attacks in and toward Israel. .Plans to blow up int'l flights simultaneously. .Achille Lauro cruise ship hijacked. .TWA aircraft hijacked, another bombed in flight. .Sept. 11th
I am sure there are more but these are the ones I could think of without doing any research.. .Remind me again why the west is bending over backward to not infinge on these creep's so called rights. There have been wars fought with less casualties than the events listed above.. .If the honorable Arab/Muslim community cannot expose the creeps, than it is our duty to eradicate this menace, and if some inncocents get harmed, TOUGH.
I am sure there are more but these are the ones I could think of without doing any research.. .Remind me again why the west is bending over backward to not infinge on these creep's so called rights. There have been wars fought with less casualties than the events listed above.. .If the honorable Arab/Muslim community cannot expose the creeps, than it is our duty to eradicate this menace, and if some inncocents get harmed, TOUGH.
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Grand Prix is 100% correct! (getting any sleep yet? <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> ) Thank for the history lesson! All of those events should be broadcast every hour on cnn, to remind the sheeple exactly why the TERRORISTS at camp X-ray are being treated way better than they deserve! It also might wake a few of them up to the farce that is "airline security", (although I question the deductive reasoning capacity of the average human, so maybe it wouldn't work!).
Unfortunately, I was correct, when I predicted just after 9/11, that we, as a country, would quickly forget the horror that we felt that morning, and that the PC police would take over before this "war" ended!
I hope that those UAL pilots get COMMENDED for their action, defending their cockpit (and by extension, the aircraft) with ersatz tools!
It would have been nice if the passengers had jumped in PRIOR to the use of the axe, but, I guess they've all forgotton about 9/11 as well.
Once again, we are back to pilots defending the aircraft ourselves (with no really effective tools.... the axe worked in THIS case, but had there been more than one, it would only buy a little time until they took the aircraft), until the "future new hire" in the F-Teen takes over from us.
Unfortunately, I was correct, when I predicted just after 9/11, that we, as a country, would quickly forget the horror that we felt that morning, and that the PC police would take over before this "war" ended!
I hope that those UAL pilots get COMMENDED for their action, defending their cockpit (and by extension, the aircraft) with ersatz tools!
It would have been nice if the passengers had jumped in PRIOR to the use of the axe, but, I guess they've all forgotton about 9/11 as well.
Once again, we are back to pilots defending the aircraft ourselves (with no really effective tools.... the axe worked in THIS case, but had there been more than one, it would only buy a little time until they took the aircraft), until the "future new hire" in the F-Teen takes over from us.
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It actually isn't politically correct to fly planeloads of passengers into packed office buildings. How come the bleeding hearts don't complain about that?
It has become too easy to browbeat the gullible media-fed West with arguments like that.
Once again, this is war gentlemen. Vietnam showed you can't do it by halves... maybe it's time we learned.
It has become too easy to browbeat the gullible media-fed West with arguments like that.
Once again, this is war gentlemen. Vietnam showed you can't do it by halves... maybe it's time we learned.
Right, to Ghost-Rider's comments and those of others.
IF the prisoners at Camp X-Ray in Cuba won't cooperate, just beat them up until they do.
If this sounds harsh, then aren't acts of mass murder (or individual murders)/terrorism also " an abuse of human rights"?
IF the prisoners at Camp X-Ray in Cuba won't cooperate, just beat them up until they do.
If this sounds harsh, then aren't acts of mass murder (or individual murders)/terrorism also " an abuse of human rights"?
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Poor fellow may have had a 'panic attack' according to his 'rellies'.. .Well that's alright then. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">
See here:. .<a href="http://business-times.asia1.com.sg/dowjones/story/0,2619,47780-190200,00.html?" target="_blank">I'm ever so scared so I thought I'd murder everyone</a>.
. .Regards. .Exeng
See here:. .<a href="http://business-times.asia1.com.sg/dowjones/story/0,2619,47780-190200,00.html?" target="_blank">I'm ever so scared so I thought I'd murder everyone</a>.
. .Regards. .Exeng
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You would think after what happened to UAL they would learn their lesson and split the head open with the axe. Guess not, so much for the former #1 airline on earth. Get serious with hijacker and kill a few. Maybe they need a lesson
No kidding, although a US court of law would see it as an excessive use of force, provided the nut's family could afford OJ Simpson's attorneys: some of the highest-paid mercenaries ever to grace a courtroom, or a Harvard Law School lecturn. The FO might have been lucky to have later found any job flying "rubber dog**** out of Hong Kong"! Let the attacker go with the famous tv "Crocodile Hunter", as Steve hunts for dangerous reptiles, as the platoon leader on point.
. .Now if the United FO had split the attacker's head open with the battleaxe, as was done in ancient, or modern warfare, this would make a more lasting, graphic impression on the public.
This incident might not be related to drinking, but how long will the FAA postpone reconsidering its policy of allowing alcohol on US aircraft, making a mockery of the US Federal Reg, which doesn't allow any intoxicated passenger to board any plane? How well does alcohol mix with schizophrenia medication, etc?
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. .Now if the United FO had split the attacker's head open with the battleaxe, as was done in ancient, or modern warfare, this would make a more lasting, graphic impression on the public.
This incident might not be related to drinking, but how long will the FAA postpone reconsidering its policy of allowing alcohol on US aircraft, making a mockery of the US Federal Reg, which doesn't allow any intoxicated passenger to board any plane? How well does alcohol mix with schizophrenia medication, etc?
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