ICAO rule change --Over 60 now 65??
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ICAO rule change --Over 60 now 65??
So tomorrow is the 23rd November ! Will the age-limit now be 65 for pilots-in-command overflying or landing in ICAO contracting states, including France, or has anything happened to prevent the rule changing ?
Having been myself denied several jobs last year due to passing 60, can I now look forward to some opportunities opening again in Europe?? Have any of the agencies taken notice of the revised situation?
Having been myself denied several jobs last year due to passing 60, can I now look forward to some opportunities opening again in Europe?? Have any of the agencies taken notice of the revised situation?
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It was expected yesterday. Whether it happened at 0001 or 2359 or not at all, I do not know. Has anyone in any company received any 'official' notification? (assuming they were not just 'getting on with it' anyway
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Don't work for them but I think at Thomsonfly (old Britannia, a much nicer name!) it has been implemented with over 60 Captains who had stayed on in the RH seat moving back the left as of now.
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OK , excusez-moi , je suis un cretin....when it comes to reading French aeronautical notices .............does it mean that the 'restriction' on over 60s is now lifted ?
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"The air users are informed that the validity of the Aeronautical Circular of Information A 21/00 of August 17, 2000 and whose object is "Age limit of the commanders" will end on November 23, 2006. SUBJECT: Age limit of the commanders"
Interestingly, it makes no mention of the retention of the age 60 limit for French licence holders which is what was rumoured.
You can read A2000-21 on the same site, and they HAVE translated that one.
"The air users are informed that the validity of the Aeronautical Circular of Information A 21/00 of August 17, 2000 and whose object is "Age limit of the commanders" will end on November 23, 2006. SUBJECT: Age limit of the commanders"
Interestingly, it makes no mention of the retention of the age 60 limit for French licence holders which is what was rumoured.
You can read A2000-21 on the same site, and they HAVE translated that one.
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Has the FAA also capitulated.
As I understand from my reading it sounded like their stance was dependant on the wishes of the US pilot union which has up till now supported the limit.
Would be good to know.
As I understand from my reading it sounded like their stance was dependant on the wishes of the US pilot union which has up till now supported the limit.
Would be good to know.
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As I understand from my reading it sounded like their stance was dependant on the wishes of the US pilot union which has up till now supported the limit.
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Somewhere on PPRune is another thread on this in which it says that the only question for the USA is whether US pilots remain 'restricted', and that under ICAO rules OTHER licence holders can now operate in the US.
Check post #108 on this thread
Check post #108 on this thread
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BOAC,
It is my understanding that the US FAA has no choice but to now allow FOREIGN pilots in command up to 65 years to operate into and out of the USA. This is a condition of membership of ICAO, which, as has been reported plentifully elsewhere, recently ratified age 65.
The French AIC also seems to be an acceptance of this new limit.
The situation regarding American pilots living in the US and operating domestically or internationally into and out of the US, is somewhat less clear and I have no idea what further legislation may or may not be required to remove this uncertainty.
It is my understanding that the US FAA has no choice but to now allow FOREIGN pilots in command up to 65 years to operate into and out of the USA. This is a condition of membership of ICAO, which, as has been reported plentifully elsewhere, recently ratified age 65.
The French AIC also seems to be an acceptance of this new limit.
The situation regarding American pilots living in the US and operating domestically or internationally into and out of the US, is somewhat less clear and I have no idea what further legislation may or may not be required to remove this uncertainty.
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The situation regarding American pilots
.........sikeano - AFAIK, no-one can MAKE you. Just resign.
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We had a major retirement 2 years ago,at age 52 
,and since then around 25% of the retired guys died of different health reasons.
(They all had a Class A medical before retirement,one even died at 52,rolling out after landing)
So,enjoy the new 65 limit of age,and best of luck for a retirement as long as possible.My bet,is that after some cases of incapacity or even sudden death at the controls of an airplane we'll see again an age limit change.
We all love this job,and maybe we have things to pay for,so I doubt any of us will retire before the limit age,health permitting.After maybe 40 yrs of flying,even if holding a good medical licence,one may crack at any time,I've seen this happening unfortunately to some good old friends of mine.
So fly safe,as long as you wish and have a nice,long retirement after that.
,and since then around 25% of the retired guys died of different health reasons. (They all had a Class A medical before retirement,one even died at 52,rolling out after landing)So,enjoy the new 65 limit of age,and best of luck for a retirement as long as possible.My bet,is that after some cases of incapacity or even sudden death at the controls of an airplane we'll see again an age limit change.
We all love this job,and maybe we have things to pay for,so I doubt any of us will retire before the limit age,health permitting.After maybe 40 yrs of flying,even if holding a good medical licence,one may crack at any time,I've seen this happening unfortunately to some good old friends of mine.
So fly safe,as long as you wish and have a nice,long retirement after that.
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Prater's Position
It is his personal position that he supports a change. However, as President of the Association he will support the position of the membership which is No Change to age 60....
Alpa members overwhelmingly favor retiring at age 60....No need to "work 'till you die".
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It's official
It is in writing from the FAA that pilots up to age 65, in compliance with the new ICAO standard, may now be be in command of non "N" registered aircraft flying to and from as well as within the US but the FO must be under 60.
See this thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=248636
See this thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=248636