Hijack in greece

[LNAV VNAV]

Why is it being assumed that the door was open all the time? Couldn't the hijackers have rushed into the cockpit just as the cabin attendant was taking the coffee in? Or just as a pilot was coming out for the loo?

[enjolras]

Hijackers have surrended and asked for political asylum in Italy. Crew and PAX leaving the plane now.

[rhovsquared]

Jeez, another 911 is STILL possible




Happy Contrails....and Keep the -damned doors shut I don't wanna see another 3000 folks die
rhov

[Reach]

What did they use, mouthwash or nail scissors?

[blackmail]

highjack

on the news: hijacking = over, no one injured, hijackers surrender & ask political asylum.

[westhawk]

Glad it worked out safely THIS TIME. Of course, anticipating the typical TSA response to international airline security incidents of any kind, better add religion to the list of topics NOT to discuss in the security lines!

Best,

Westhawk

[daz211]

Whats to say that this was not a test by hijackers, testing security and if the aircraft was to be shot down or not? just a thought.

[island]

no

some news-websites reported that the hijackers were not armed.... so how the did they do that?

[Airbrake]

If the Italians did not not have a shoot down plan today, they will have tomorrow morning. I wonder how close to Rome this aircraft would have got before this incident would have had a very different ending.

[mistral_e]

All european countries have one terrorist plan and Italy too. In any case you don't shoot down an aircraft at the first hijacking alarm otherwise you would kill innocent people even when the situation could be managed in a different way like today.

In any case nobody was injured and that's great.

[Blues&twos]

Would have thought it would have been easier to buy tickets for a scheduled flight to Rome.......

Good news all OK.

[mistral_e]

Yeah, I was wondering the same

[macroman]

It just goes to show that no matter what procedures are put in place on the ground, these nutters are going to keep coming. An open cockpit door is an open invitation.

Would've been a lot handier all round if they just emailed the Pope! It is good though that everybody got out okay.

[Airbrake]

Mistral, whilst a shoot down may be the last option you need to get things moving sharpish at the start to stand half a chance of playing it as your last card.
I would estimate Rome is less than 40 mins from Brindisi you simply do not have an hour or two before you need to get things moving.

[blackmail]

hijack

hijacker was an INAD(person refused entry), turkish army deserter/converted to christianism, who's political asylum request was denied by the albanian authorities. he was expulsed & put by "force" on this flight back to turkey, were a certain arrest upon arrival was guaranteed. so, i think, that should have raised at least, some red flags(escort required etc.) & flying with an open cockpitdoor was to open the door for ... .
well, what happened. not all the roads lead to rome anymore.

[soddim]

One wonders if the aircraft would have been shot down if it approached Rome?

Hard to imagine a more reckless policy than keeping cockpit doors insecure after the lessons of 9/11.

[mistral_e]

Originally Posted by Airbrake

Mistral, whilst a shoot down may be the last option you need to get things moving sharpish at the start to stand half a chance of playing it as your last card.
I would estimate Rome is less than 40 mins from Brindisi you simply do not have an hour or two before you need to get things moving.

Airbrake, I don't understand for what reason you are so concerned about engagement of a civil aircraft. May be you are scared of another 9/11 as I don't think you like to see blood in the skies. Man, look the aircraft was already escort outside greek airspace from greek fighter and let to italian fighter. Why they didn't stop it? Because, listening local news, turkish pilot reported the hijacker had a bomb and was going to detonate it if the aircraft was not diverted to Rome. So for Greece was a great relief and solution to escort a problem outside his skies and let the problem to italian' F-16s. Now, an F-16 is supersonic if necessary they can fly faster then speed of sound. Normally is avoided especially over landmark but if necessary they go, don't worry about it. Other issue, may be you don't know they can load AIM-120 a missile capable to achieve a speed of Mach 4 and a range of about 25 or 30 Nautical miles more or less, so what I mean in extreme case is not necessary to have a target insight to pull it down on ground. Even more this is not the first hijack alarm received after 9/11 where an european fighter was scrambled to see what was going on inside a civil flight. In each single incident, fighters reached their targets and they established a visual contact.There were already cases in Holland, France and Italy too therefore I think Europe took seriously these situations and until now I think we should not panic .

[mistral_e]

At the end he was alone. He cheated with the crew making them believe there was another hjacker on board.

[Norman Stanley Fletcher]

This case astounds me. In this day and age, why did the crew and passengers not fight with everything they had to kill or disable this guy? It is very alarming on many levels. Turkish Airlines are notoriously lax about door security - that alone should make them subject to an immediate ban over European skies until the matter is resolved. Perhaps the most troubling aspect is the acquiescance of 100+ people, including the Captain and FO, who failed to intervene. I just cannot get my head round that.

I am not the slightest embarrassed to say that if some nutter ever enters my cockpit uninvited, either he or I will shortly thereafter be leaving dead or very seriously injured.

[Fox3snapshot]

NSF...or is it NFI ??!!!

Nice theory mate.....!