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did they ever determine whether there were inside people involved on the sept 11th incident? ie people who could bypass security??
also I'm not sure guns on the plane is a good idea..
What do you mean it wouldnt give them an advantage if they overpowered a sky marshall?!?! it certainly would..
If the captain asks me to rush the hijackers, I'm alot more likely to go try to attack a guy with a box cutter or a knife compared to I guy who just stole a sky marshall's gun... I really think guns are a lousy idea -- granted you may not have sky marshalls who can shoot the bad guy.. but then it's most likely the bad guy cant shoot anyone either...
what about a flight computer that could lock in a course and wouldnt deviate without a passcode??
also I'm not sure guns on the plane is a good idea..
What do you mean it wouldnt give them an advantage if they overpowered a sky marshall?!?! it certainly would..
If the captain asks me to rush the hijackers, I'm alot more likely to go try to attack a guy with a box cutter or a knife compared to I guy who just stole a sky marshall's gun... I really think guns are a lousy idea -- granted you may not have sky marshalls who can shoot the bad guy.. but then it's most likely the bad guy cant shoot anyone either...
what about a flight computer that could lock in a course and wouldnt deviate without a passcode??
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Lets try the kiss(keep it simple stupid) principal often the simplest of ideas are the most effective!
A reinforced and locked door to the cockpit that cannot be opened while in flight will stop anyone whose business is terror!
Why would anyone try hijacking an aircraft when they know they it is not possible to enter the cockpit and take control aircraft? They will find easier targets!
Hope everyone has their crop dusters safely secured!
A reinforced and locked door to the cockpit that cannot be opened while in flight will stop anyone whose business is terror!
Why would anyone try hijacking an aircraft when they know they it is not possible to enter the cockpit and take control aircraft? They will find easier targets!
Hope everyone has their crop dusters safely secured!
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CPTVON said:
"what about a flight computer that could lock in a course and wouldnt deviate without a passcode?? "
see http://www.iasa-intl.com/RoboLander.htm (and associated links)
being frequently updated.
"what about a flight computer that could lock in a course and wouldnt deviate without a passcode?? "
see http://www.iasa-intl.com/RoboLander.htm (and associated links)
being frequently updated.
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The majority of the 43 police forces in UK have weapons locked away until authority has been given to deploy them.With the exception of some Protection officers in armed support vehicles.
UK Sky marshalls or In-Flight Security Specialists should be recruited from the Police(firearms officers)as most will have trained in intervention and used Blue Plastic rounds(they are designed not to over penetrate or puncture aircraft skin)The Home secretary should issue a special firearms licence to them(or the company recruiting them) and one should be placed on a flight.Three or four is unworkable.One is enough as the fact will be heavily advertised to attract back punters, reassure crew and with all of the measures Mr McGoo recommends get the would be hijacker thinking about their chance of success(/bullet in the chest). An ex police officer would also be able to deal with air rage by communication as they deal with conflict and ambiguity daily. they are also trained in unarmed defence tactics and control and restraint techniques. There you are solved
PS But it wont be cheap
UK Sky marshalls or In-Flight Security Specialists should be recruited from the Police(firearms officers)as most will have trained in intervention and used Blue Plastic rounds(they are designed not to over penetrate or puncture aircraft skin)The Home secretary should issue a special firearms licence to them(or the company recruiting them) and one should be placed on a flight.Three or four is unworkable.One is enough as the fact will be heavily advertised to attract back punters, reassure crew and with all of the measures Mr McGoo recommends get the would be hijacker thinking about their chance of success(/bullet in the chest). An ex police officer would also be able to deal with air rage by communication as they deal with conflict and ambiguity daily. they are also trained in unarmed defence tactics and control and restraint techniques. There you are solved
PS But it wont be cheap
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Vindicop,
Your profile states that you are an ex tactical firearms officer.As a current one I find your statement that one armed officer on an aircraft is enough????. As a deterrent maybe, but should you have to do anything two officers is the absolute minimum for even the most basic firearms tactics. Also what on earth are blue plastic rounds..surely you don't mean simunition
[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: The flying gunman ]
Your profile states that you are an ex tactical firearms officer.As a current one I find your statement that one armed officer on an aircraft is enough????. As a deterrent maybe, but should you have to do anything two officers is the absolute minimum for even the most basic firearms tactics. Also what on earth are blue plastic rounds..surely you don't mean simunition
[ 06 October 2001: Message edited by: The flying gunman ]
