Year 2045, Tankering whats that???
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Year 2045, Tankering whats that???
OK ,Heres everything that I'm not.
1/ a tree hugger.
2/ a member of the socialist green party.
3/ intelligent.
But I was wondering why are we still permitted to Tanker fuel around.(burn fuel to carry fuel)
Admittedly we only burn approx 40kg per 1000kg carried (B737),and yes I know we do it for economical reasons,and I dont ask why airlines pratice this ,but why are airlines allowed to do this.
Various reports suggest that oil reserves will be depleted in 25 to 40 years time.For many of us this period is with in our lifetime and most certainly will impact our kids
I know to tax a Diesel car in Germany costs more than a petrol model,this is an attempt by the German government to curb use of diesel cars because they pollute the air more.Which is one example of smart government in my opinion.In Ireland we use plastic bags to wrap the plastic bag that covers the plastic bag that holds our biscuits.
A visit to the states will afford you the opportunity to drive a 4 or 5 litre car at 60 mph.Whats the point?Its no wonder that california is suffering power shortages with this mentality concerning resource use.
Why are we still burning fuel as if it is going out of fashion,because it is going out of fashion and Fast.
Just wondered,anyone out there with any answers?I think this will be one pratice that our kids will highlight as their parents gross abuse of resourses,along with many other squandering ways we have.
Now wheres that tree I fell like a hug
1/ a tree hugger.
2/ a member of the socialist green party.
3/ intelligent.
But I was wondering why are we still permitted to Tanker fuel around.(burn fuel to carry fuel)
Admittedly we only burn approx 40kg per 1000kg carried (B737),and yes I know we do it for economical reasons,and I dont ask why airlines pratice this ,but why are airlines allowed to do this.
Various reports suggest that oil reserves will be depleted in 25 to 40 years time.For many of us this period is with in our lifetime and most certainly will impact our kids
I know to tax a Diesel car in Germany costs more than a petrol model,this is an attempt by the German government to curb use of diesel cars because they pollute the air more.Which is one example of smart government in my opinion.In Ireland we use plastic bags to wrap the plastic bag that covers the plastic bag that holds our biscuits.
A visit to the states will afford you the opportunity to drive a 4 or 5 litre car at 60 mph.Whats the point?Its no wonder that california is suffering power shortages with this mentality concerning resource use.
Why are we still burning fuel as if it is going out of fashion,because it is going out of fashion and Fast.
Just wondered,anyone out there with any answers?I think this will be one pratice that our kids will highlight as their parents gross abuse of resourses,along with many other squandering ways we have.
Now wheres that tree I fell like a hug
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25-40 years.
I have been hearing that for more than 30 years. THe fact is that there is more than enough oil to keep us going to 200 years, long after this planet gets to the temperature of venus.
Drilling and exploration technologies continue to improve faster than consumption, hence the low oil prices (except for occational artificial price spikes created by OPEC restricting production)
Eventually a long time from now it will get expensive to drill for oil as it will not be as convientiently located and then prices for oil will rise and demand for it will drop with alternative sources becoming viable. The market will fix all believe it or not.
In the meantime, they are opening up new wells in pennsylvania (my buddy just got a very profitable one on his property) due to the improved drilling and exploration technology in a field that has been assumed to be depleated for over 50 years.
Go to the store and purchase a liter of Evian water, and you will realize that gasoline in cheaper than water.
The british view of the world really hasn't changed since the "for export only" days at the end of world war II. If self denial makes you happy, have at it.
Cheers
Wino
I have been hearing that for more than 30 years. THe fact is that there is more than enough oil to keep us going to 200 years, long after this planet gets to the temperature of venus.
Drilling and exploration technologies continue to improve faster than consumption, hence the low oil prices (except for occational artificial price spikes created by OPEC restricting production)
Eventually a long time from now it will get expensive to drill for oil as it will not be as convientiently located and then prices for oil will rise and demand for it will drop with alternative sources becoming viable. The market will fix all believe it or not.
In the meantime, they are opening up new wells in pennsylvania (my buddy just got a very profitable one on his property) due to the improved drilling and exploration technology in a field that has been assumed to be depleated for over 50 years.
Go to the store and purchase a liter of Evian water, and you will realize that gasoline in cheaper than water.
The british view of the world really hasn't changed since the "for export only" days at the end of world war II. If self denial makes you happy, have at it.
Cheers
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We have a crazy system in London where aircraft hold in the air because it is cheaper than holding on the ground.
Even in this traffic downturn aircraft can hold for 30 minutes in the stacks rather than being held on the ground saving fuel.
I've seen aircraft get airborne from Manchester for a 45 minute flight, knowing there was 60 minutes of holding at Bovingdon.
Couldn't the airlines have a bit of a common sense approach to the enviroment ?
Even in this traffic downturn aircraft can hold for 30 minutes in the stacks rather than being held on the ground saving fuel.
I've seen aircraft get airborne from Manchester for a 45 minute flight, knowing there was 60 minutes of holding at Bovingdon.
Couldn't the airlines have a bit of a common sense approach to the enviroment ?
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Betcha you were listening to Eamon Dunphy last night, interviewing that 'economist' who was doing the lecture in Trinity about the imminent collapse of the world economy because the oil was running out next year.
Load of bull.
It's not a limitless resource (as Wino points out) but it's not running out next year either. I've read that there are reserves equal to all the oil thats already been used, but because it's costlier to extract it hasn't been touched yet.
Prices will inevitably rise if they have to go for this stuff, but the lights aren't going out yet.
I hear the 'cold fusion' project is getting new interest. If I was a conspiracy theorist (and I'm not
) I'd probably say the US Gov know it works, but the Oil Companies have kept it under wraps thanks to Dubya and his mates.
Load of bull.
It's not a limitless resource (as Wino points out) but it's not running out next year either. I've read that there are reserves equal to all the oil thats already been used, but because it's costlier to extract it hasn't been touched yet.
Prices will inevitably rise if they have to go for this stuff, but the lights aren't going out yet.
I hear the 'cold fusion' project is getting new interest. If I was a conspiracy theorist (and I'm not
) I'd probably say the US Gov know it works, but the Oil Companies have kept it under wraps thanks to Dubya and his mates.
