Gatwick Airport worker killed by American bomb in Afghanistan
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Gatwick Airport worker killed by American bomb in Afghanistan
Today’s Daily Telegraph
One of the four Muslims killed by American bombs after apparently volunteering to fight for the Taliban in Afghanistan was a security vetted employee at Gatwick Airport it emerged yesterday.
Khan worked for LSG Sky Chef preparing meals for airlines operating out of Gatwick.
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...0/30/ixhome.ht ml
Should make the DTLR wake up.
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One of the four Muslims killed by American bombs after apparently volunteering to fight for the Taliban in Afghanistan was a security vetted employee at Gatwick Airport it emerged yesterday.
Khan worked for LSG Sky Chef preparing meals for airlines operating out of Gatwick.
http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne...0/30/ixhome.ht ml
Should make the DTLR wake up.
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stoopid (good name, btw!) how exactly do you think SkyChefs get the meals to the aircraft? And whilst not all SC personnel would go airside, that this guy had an airside pass, dodn't you think that implies he DID go airside?
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Serves him right !
Anybody else that lives in UK and enjoys our hospitality and freedom, but then decides to go and fight for the Taleban against the West will hopefully meet the same fate ! It's called treason in my book !
Is this the thanks we get for the current politically correct BS 'be nice to Islam' ?
Anybody else that lives in UK and enjoys our hospitality and freedom, but then decides to go and fight for the Taleban against the West will hopefully meet the same fate ! It's called treason in my book !
Is this the thanks we get for the current politically correct BS 'be nice to Islam' ?
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Sorry to hear about anyone's loss of life.
But how STUPID do you have to get to go to Afghanistan to fight against the American/British military? Technology will win in the end (however long that will be).
This former Gatwick worker was presumably semi-familiar with Western technology - he should have known that the West possesses considerable technological firepower that can HURT people if directed against them.
He made a big mistake and now he is DEAD. The Taliban thinks it can outlast the US/British forces - ridiculous...
Newsflash for them: those who resist will also be DEAD or badly hurt for being mistaken. The Taliban is now condemned - they chose the WRONG side and will now pay for their misdeeds. This former Gatwick worker dug his own grave...
But how STUPID do you have to get to go to Afghanistan to fight against the American/British military? Technology will win in the end (however long that will be).
This former Gatwick worker was presumably semi-familiar with Western technology - he should have known that the West possesses considerable technological firepower that can HURT people if directed against them.
He made a big mistake and now he is DEAD. The Taliban thinks it can outlast the US/British forces - ridiculous...
Newsflash for them: those who resist will also be DEAD or badly hurt for being mistaken. The Taliban is now condemned - they chose the WRONG side and will now pay for their misdeeds. This former Gatwick worker dug his own grave...
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This just shows up the farce that the vetting process is. The BAA pass is jsut a series of hoops to be jumped through, once you jump through them like a trained monkey, hey presto you get your pass. Exactly how deep is the background checking.
As for Airport security, another farce, as my crew and I were being screened at Stansteds VP9 recently, a staff member wearing a police or immigration pass walked right past the security screen area by just flashing his ID, NO ONE bothered to ask him to put the brief case he was carrying through the XRay or to walk through the scanner.
Terrorists are not idiots, they do not have terrorist written on their ID, they do not write down Osama Bin Laden as a previous employer.
As for Airport security, another farce, as my crew and I were being screened at Stansteds VP9 recently, a staff member wearing a police or immigration pass walked right past the security screen area by just flashing his ID, NO ONE bothered to ask him to put the brief case he was carrying through the XRay or to walk through the scanner.
Terrorists are not idiots, they do not have terrorist written on their ID, they do not write down Osama Bin Laden as a previous employer.
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I couldn't agree with you more. The question that has to be asked is had Mr Khan been previously been identified as a security risk? If so, why did he have a security clearance?
If he had not been identified, should we go back to square one and start checking everyone who has clearance to work at any airport in the UK in any capacity - and that includes you and me.
What I suspect will happen is:
I couldn't agree with you more. The question that has to be asked is had Mr Khan been previously been identified as a security risk? If so, why did he have a security clearance?
If he had not been identified, should we go back to square one and start checking everyone who has clearance to work at any airport in the UK in any capacity - and that includes you and me.
What I suspect will happen is:
Hang on Fopaddy ,
Didn't you and your crew not immediately question this amazing lack of security you witnessed???? I would have taken immediate action without any hesitation whatsoever. I don't mean this agressively but, in my eyes, if you took no action then you failed just as badly as the security crew did! Hope you get my point.
Didn't you and your crew not immediately question this amazing lack of security you witnessed???? I would have taken immediate action without any hesitation whatsoever. I don't mean this agressively but, in my eyes, if you took no action then you failed just as badly as the security crew did! Hope you get my point.
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Of course, anyone who goes out to afghanistan to fight for the terrorist-supporting taliban deserves to be killed.
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The fact that people like the idiot above who describes 'being nice to islam' as pc bs, is the reason that intolerance, terrorism and wars exist.
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Relax about the 'police or immigration' pass holder. Don't you think the staff recognised him as such - they probably see him every day and drink tea with him.
Of course, anyone who goes out to afghanistan to fight for the terrorist-supporting taliban deserves to be killed.
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The fact that people like the idiot above who describes 'being nice to islam' as pc bs, is the reason that intolerance, terrorism and wars exist.
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Relax about the 'police or immigration' pass holder. Don't you think the staff recognised him as such - they probably see him every day and drink tea with him.
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Hang on guys. Perhaps this individual was, albeit misguided, a respectable citizen with no criminal background and fully met the requirements for the an airside pass! It's no offense yet in this country to be a muslim. There must be thousands of law abiding muslims working at airfields around the UK who are coming under unwarrented scrutiny at the moment.
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No, you're right. It's not an offence (sp) to be a Muslim, but it IS an offence to take up arms against your own country. In fact it's known as treason and is one of the very few offences which I believe still attracts the death sentence in the UK. I guess this pri*k got served his justice early and saved us wasting time and money in the courts.
Anyone else who calls themelves a British citizen, Muslim or not, but wants to go and fight for the Taliban can sod off and join him for all I care, and I hope they all get killed in the war. We certainly don't want or need them in the UK.
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No, you're right. It's not an offence (sp) to be a Muslim, but it IS an offence to take up arms against your own country. In fact it's known as treason and is one of the very few offences which I believe still attracts the death sentence in the UK. I guess this pri*k got served his justice early and saved us wasting time and money in the courts.
Anyone else who calls themelves a British citizen, Muslim or not, but wants to go and fight for the Taliban can sod off and join him for all I care, and I hope they all get killed in the war. We certainly don't want or need them in the UK.
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Reported in Sat or Sunday Daily Mail
Two Luton men died fighting for Taliban,
I think it said they were Taxi drivers .
Homes raided and bomb making equipment seized
by Police.
Two Luton men died fighting for Taliban,
I think it said they were Taxi drivers .
Homes raided and bomb making equipment seized
by Police.
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oh ok hugmonster "Khan worked for LSG Sky Chef preparing meals for airlines operating out of Gatwick".
"how exactly do you think SkyChefs get the meals to the aircraft? And whilst not all SC personnel would go airside, that this guy had an airside pass, dodn't you think that implies he DID go airside?"
i should of realised that he obviously prepared the meals at the industrial estate in his nice white uniform and hair net ... then took them off, and drove the great big lorry up to the airport .... then loaded the meals onto the waiting a/c unless (silly me) they are now preparing meals on the frigging runway you pompous git )))))))
"how exactly do you think SkyChefs get the meals to the aircraft? And whilst not all SC personnel would go airside, that this guy had an airside pass, dodn't you think that implies he DID go airside?"
i should of realised that he obviously prepared the meals at the industrial estate in his nice white uniform and hair net ... then took them off, and drove the great big lorry up to the airport .... then loaded the meals onto the waiting a/c unless (silly me) they are now preparing meals on the frigging runway you pompous git )))))))
Stoopid,
hugmonster is probably correct (although I don't know the exact setup at Sky Chefs) most catering will be prepared off airfield then driven airside and loaded by the same staff onto the aircraft, but I stand to be corrected.
Also, any link with this geezer and the groundstaff at LGW who reportedly was celebrating the Sept 11th attacks as news was still breaking? (Or was that a baggage handler?)
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hugmonster is probably correct (although I don't know the exact setup at Sky Chefs) most catering will be prepared off airfield then driven airside and loaded by the same staff onto the aircraft, but I stand to be corrected.
Also, any link with this geezer and the groundstaff at LGW who reportedly was celebrating the Sept 11th attacks as news was still breaking? (Or was that a baggage handler?)
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Couldn't believe my ears earlier tonight when I heard it stated that those who joined the taliban to fight against, potentially, British forces might have legal ramifications to face. At the end of a list of fairly innocuous charges was mentioned that "and theoretically, even treason might be considered..." THEORETICALLY??? A little PC poking out here??? Unbelievable. It's the first thing that comes to mind for the layman, but the last that comes to mind for a politician.
Just dunno...theoretically
Just dunno...theoretically
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Miles High, are you completely blind to terrorism?
Point 3. Security:
So the nice people in screening recognised the man. Suppose he is forced to carry his bag (full of weapons) past the scanner as he does every day, acting normally while his wife and children were held hostage.
NO ONE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM SCREENING. COSMETIC SECURITY AND SENIORITY BASED SECURITY IS USELESS SECURITY.
Sorry to hijack this thread but someone rattled my cage
Point 3. Security:
So the nice people in screening recognised the man. Suppose he is forced to carry his bag (full of weapons) past the scanner as he does every day, acting normally while his wife and children were held hostage.
NO ONE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM SCREENING. COSMETIC SECURITY AND SENIORITY BASED SECURITY IS USELESS SECURITY.
Sorry to hijack this thread but someone rattled my cage
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Miles High, are you completely blind to terrorism?
Point 3. Relax about the 'police or immigration' pass holder........
So the nice people in screening recognised the man. Suppose he is forced to carry his bag (today full of weapons) past the scanner as he does every day, acting normally while his wife and children were held hostage.
NO ONE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM SCREENING. COSMETIC SECURITY AND SENIORITY BASED SECURITY IS USELESS SECURITY.
Sorry to hijack this thread but someone rattled my cage
Point 3. Relax about the 'police or immigration' pass holder........
So the nice people in screening recognised the man. Suppose he is forced to carry his bag (today full of weapons) past the scanner as he does every day, acting normally while his wife and children were held hostage.
NO ONE SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM SCREENING. COSMETIC SECURITY AND SENIORITY BASED SECURITY IS USELESS SECURITY.
Sorry to hijack this thread but someone rattled my cage
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So good he said it twice
According to todays Independant.
"The family (Yasir Khan's)is angry that his name is being linked with extreme religious groups. He had gone there to help members of his people, the Duranni, to distribute aid and food parcels, nothing more."
More suspiciously, he was sacked by LSG Chef, "for not accepting changes in work practices put in place following the terrorist attacks in the United States."
According to todays Independant.
"The family (Yasir Khan's)is angry that his name is being linked with extreme religious groups. He had gone there to help members of his people, the Duranni, to distribute aid and food parcels, nothing more."
More suspiciously, he was sacked by LSG Chef, "for not accepting changes in work practices put in place following the terrorist attacks in the United States."