The Bumper Thread of Airline Security Scares
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The Bumper Thread of Airline Security Scares
Reports are being carried on local radio news services in Ireland of a security threat to this mornings Aer Lingus service from JFK to Shannon.
Seems a phone call was made to the Garda (Irish Police) at around 4am local time and the flight carried on to land at Shannon without incident at 8.20 local
Passangers being interviewed and baggage checked in Shannon.
Dublin Airport web site showing final leg of flight (Shannon to Dublin) cancelled.
Origin Airline Flight Scheduled Time Status
New York Aer Lingus EI112 25-08-2006 08:25 Cancelled
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Seems a phone call was made to the Garda (Irish Police) at around 4am local time and the flight carried on to land at Shannon without incident at 8.20 local
Passangers being interviewed and baggage checked in Shannon.
Dublin Airport web site showing final leg of flight (Shannon to Dublin) cancelled.
Origin Airline Flight Scheduled Time Status
New York Aer Lingus EI112 25-08-2006 08:25 Cancelled
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Here's the same story on BBC.
I do like this quote particularly...
"It wasn't an emergency landing. It wasn't a red alert. The flight was coming here anyway," said airport spokesman Eugene Pratt.
Talk about a change of style and attitude! Refreshing!
I do like this quote particularly...
"It wasn't an emergency landing. It wasn't a red alert. The flight was coming here anyway," said airport spokesman Eugene Pratt.
Talk about a change of style and attitude! Refreshing!
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The Bumper Thread of Airline Security Scares
Sky just breaking that American Airlines flight AA 55 (Manchester - Chicago) has diverted to Bangor.
Sky reporting incident at MAN before departure.
Aircraft is on the ground.
Sky reporting incident at MAN before departure.
Aircraft is on the ground.
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CO52 out of Argentina via Houston now in Newark being searched after dynamite was found in a college students checked luggage. It never ends.
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Dynamite found in checked bag at KIAH
Additional to that noted to in the AA diversion thread:
Full story at Houston Chronicle
HOUSTON - A college student's checked luggage on a Continental Airlines flight to Houston from Argentina today contained dynamite, and federal authorities are investigating why he had it and what he intended to do with it, an FBI spokeswoman said.
"Certainly we are doing a thorough investigation and trying to find out what this individual's intention was in trying to bring dynamite here," FBI spokeswoman Shauna Dunlap said today.
The dynamite was found during a luggage search in a federal inspection station at Bush Intercontinental Airport shortly after Continental Flight 52 landed about 6 a.m. today. Marlene McClinton, spokeswoman for the Houston Airport System, said a bomb-sniffing dog "had a hit" on explosive residue during a further search.
She said Customs and Border Patrol and the FBI shut down the customs area and began questioning the passenger who had the luggage. The identity and age of the passenger, a man, were not released.
Houston Fire Department Assistant Chief Omero Longoria said the man told fire officials that he works in mining and often handles explosives, so that would explain the residue. He said federal officials were investigating whether the man's explanation was true, and the fire department's role in the probe ended upon determining the man's bag did not contain a bomb.
Dunlap declined to release specifics, but confirmed that the explosive was dynamite. She said authorities were "sifting through facts" and would release more information as the investigation progresses.
"Certainly we are doing a thorough investigation and trying to find out what this individual's intention was in trying to bring dynamite here," FBI spokeswoman Shauna Dunlap said today.
The dynamite was found during a luggage search in a federal inspection station at Bush Intercontinental Airport shortly after Continental Flight 52 landed about 6 a.m. today. Marlene McClinton, spokeswoman for the Houston Airport System, said a bomb-sniffing dog "had a hit" on explosive residue during a further search.
She said Customs and Border Patrol and the FBI shut down the customs area and began questioning the passenger who had the luggage. The identity and age of the passenger, a man, were not released.
Houston Fire Department Assistant Chief Omero Longoria said the man told fire officials that he works in mining and often handles explosives, so that would explain the residue. He said federal officials were investigating whether the man's explanation was true, and the fire department's role in the probe ended upon determining the man's bag did not contain a bomb.
Dunlap declined to release specifics, but confirmed that the explosive was dynamite. She said authorities were "sifting through facts" and would release more information as the investigation progresses.
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This really is becoming beyond a joke. American paranoia. I know I'll get pelters for that comment, but it really is becoming stupid. We are letting the terrorists win, and they don't even need to leave the house!
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More Info...
Click2Houston.com—Houston, TX
FBI: Dynamite Found In Baggage
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• Dynamite found in airline passenger's checked luggage, FBI says
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2:33 p.m. CDT August 25, 2006
HOUSTON - A suspicious item found in a piece of baggage at Bush Intercontinental Airport on Friday was dynamite, officials told KPRC Local 2. Officials said a suspicious item was found during a secondary luggage check at about 7 a.m., about an hour after the Continental Airlines flight arrived from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Officials said the item was found during a routine search with a K-9 unit.
Authorities conducted an investigation and found residue from an explosive device on the bag.
"Contents of the luggage did contain an explosive component," said Mark Mancuso, deputy director of public safety and technology for the Houston Airport System. "It is a very small amount of explosives, sufficient enough to where it was not necessary to use the threat containment unit that was available. It was carried out by the Houston Police Department and sent for laboratory analysis."
The bag's owner was detained and questioned, officials said.
Officials said the bag's owner told them he was touring mine fields in Buenos Aires and bought the item as an artifact.
Click2Houston.com—Houston, TX
FBI: Dynamite Found In Baggage
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• Dynamite found in airline passenger's checked luggage, FBI says
Click2Houston.com
2:33 p.m. CDT August 25, 2006
HOUSTON - A suspicious item found in a piece of baggage at Bush Intercontinental Airport on Friday was dynamite, officials told KPRC Local 2. Officials said a suspicious item was found during a secondary luggage check at about 7 a.m., about an hour after the Continental Airlines flight arrived from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Officials said the item was found during a routine search with a K-9 unit.
Authorities conducted an investigation and found residue from an explosive device on the bag.
"Contents of the luggage did contain an explosive component," said Mark Mancuso, deputy director of public safety and technology for the Houston Airport System. "It is a very small amount of explosives, sufficient enough to where it was not necessary to use the threat containment unit that was available. It was carried out by the Houston Police Department and sent for laboratory analysis."
The bag's owner was detained and questioned, officials said.
Officials said the bag's owner told them he was touring mine fields in Buenos Aires and bought the item as an artifact.
and what happened to the US/Pakistani woman in the US who smuggled a home made bomb on board a US a/c last week (of course she got the idea from the UK terrorists as it was liquid based and that also happened to be the paranoia-substance-of-the-day)? I mean if it was that serious surely we would have heard more by now? Or was it.. as I think many of us suspected.. just more ****sh*t.
The piss is being taken out of us a bit too much lately.
I'm all for safety naturally like most of us, and erring on the side of caution is second-nature. But this is actually starting to become detrimental to safety!
The piss is being taken out of us a bit too much lately.
I'm all for safety naturally like most of us, and erring on the side of caution is second-nature. But this is actually starting to become detrimental to safety!
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From the story posted by sidman
Huh? Mining areas, mayhaps, but how many Claymores or OZMs have been placed around Bs.As. anytime recently? Sad to say, it seems it's all gone over the top. 
Edit: I heard from sources in Houston that media there are reporting a half stick of dynamite was found in a bag belonging to a lad, 21 yrs, from Connecticutt (dunno about that spelling) in the US. He supposedly told authorities he picked it up whilst touring mining sites in Bolivia.
...told them he was touring mine fields in Buenos Aires...
Edit: I heard from sources in Houston that media there are reporting a half stick of dynamite was found in a bag belonging to a lad, 21 yrs, from Connecticutt (dunno about that spelling) in the US. He supposedly told authorities he picked it up whilst touring mining sites in Bolivia.
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The problem for our business goes thusly when CNN/FOX/___ gets the story:
CNN.com
"FBI: Dynamite found in luggage"
Actually the story is:
Traces of dynamite were found within luggage.
The former headline creates (at least for me) the image of sticks of the same, while the latter is less sale-able as "top news"
CNN.com
"FBI: Dynamite found in luggage"
Actually the story is:
Traces of dynamite were found within luggage.
The former headline creates (at least for me) the image of sticks of the same, while the latter is less sale-able as "top news"
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I stand corrected
Originally Posted by Dream Land
I would say that 1/2 stick of Dynamite is a bit more than a trace. 
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If all the pilots were not hidden away in their cockpits as & when these threats from passengers came about perhaps they would be able to come into the cabin & make afirst hand assesment instead of being fed information from cabin crew which is second not first hand. This is not the fault of the lads at the sharp end but again the knee jerk reactionism to the situation post 9/11 whihc forced pilots behind the locked & re-inforced doors.
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I heard a good one tonight. A woman was using nail polish to paint her nails, the smell went through the cabin, alarming a lot of the passengers, now for the fun part...the aircraft was diverted back to its departure airport.
I'll see if I can find the source for it.
I'll see if I can find the source for it.
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Originally Posted by SaturnV
Not dyanmite (in the sense of a stick or two) but residual traces as sniffed by a dog in the customs area.
From the Houston Chronicle
In the Houston case, federal officials have charged Howard McFarland Fish, 21, a college student, with carrying an explosive aboard an aircraft. Fish was being held without bail, pending a hearing in federal court Monday.
Fish arrived at George Bush Intercontinental Airport on Continental Airlines Flight 52 from Buenos Aires about 6 a.m. Friday. According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, a Customs and Border Protection canine singled out Fish's luggage.
Customs officers inspected the bags and discovered at least two suspicious items, including the dynamite, in his bags.
Fish told authorities that the items were souvenirs he bought while exploring old mines in Bolivia, according to Mark Mancuso, deputy director of public safety and Technology at the Houston Airport System.
FBI officials interviewed Fish and determined the incident was not an act of terrorism, but did not say whether they have verified Fish's story.
Fish's father said that he is certain his son intended no harm but keeping the dynamite was instead careless.
"What a stupid, stupid thing to do in today's world," his father, also named Howard Fish, told the Associated Press.
Whether the younger Fish was a threat or not is only part of the concerned raised Friday, critics said. Security on international flights should have been tighter, especially after British authorities foiled a suspected plot earlier this month, critics said.
Fish arrived at George Bush Intercontinental Airport on Continental Airlines Flight 52 from Buenos Aires about 6 a.m. Friday. According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, a Customs and Border Protection canine singled out Fish's luggage.
Customs officers inspected the bags and discovered at least two suspicious items, including the dynamite, in his bags.
Fish told authorities that the items were souvenirs he bought while exploring old mines in Bolivia, according to Mark Mancuso, deputy director of public safety and Technology at the Houston Airport System.
FBI officials interviewed Fish and determined the incident was not an act of terrorism, but did not say whether they have verified Fish's story.
Fish's father said that he is certain his son intended no harm but keeping the dynamite was instead careless.
"What a stupid, stupid thing to do in today's world," his father, also named Howard Fish, told the Associated Press.
Whether the younger Fish was a threat or not is only part of the concerned raised Friday, critics said. Security on international flights should have been tighter, especially after British authorities foiled a suspected plot earlier this month, critics said.
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If all the pilots were not hidden away in their cockpits as & when these threats from passengers came about perhaps they would be able to come into the cabin & make afirst hand assesment instead of being fed information from cabin crew which is second not first hand. This is not the fault of the lads at the sharp end but again the knee jerk reactionism to the situation post 9/11 whihc forced pilots behind the locked & re-inforced doors.