Pulkovo TU-154 Crash
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From Novosti
Russia airliner with 170 people crashes in E. Ukraine - rescuers
[ 17:01 ] A Russian Tu-154 airliner with 160 passengers and ten crew onboard crashed over eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, emergency services said Tuesday. The plane was en route from the resort of Anapa on the Black Sea in southern Russia to St. Petersburg. "On Tuesday, at 15.39 [local time - 12:39 GMT], a Tu-154 airliner of the [St. Petersburg-based] Pulkovo Airlines ... sent a SOS signal and disappeared from radars," the source said. "Preliminary data suggests that the plane crashed 45 kilometers (30 miles) north of Donetsk."
[ 17:01 ] A Russian Tu-154 airliner with 160 passengers and ten crew onboard crashed over eastern Ukraine near the Russian border, emergency services said Tuesday. The plane was en route from the resort of Anapa on the Black Sea in southern Russia to St. Petersburg. "On Tuesday, at 15.39 [local time - 12:39 GMT], a Tu-154 airliner of the [St. Petersburg-based] Pulkovo Airlines ... sent a SOS signal and disappeared from radars," the source said. "Preliminary data suggests that the plane crashed 45 kilometers (30 miles) north of Donetsk."
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"The aircraft issued an SOS at 15.37 (Moscow time -- 1137 GMT). At 15.39, it disappeared from radar screens," a spokeswoman for Russia's Emergencies Ministry said by telephone.
Igor Krol, a spokeman for the Ukrainian ministry told 5th Channel television that, according to preliminary information, a fire broke out in the plane at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet).
The crew then decided to make an emergency landing.
"The aircraft issued an SOS at 15.37 (Moscow time -- 1137 GMT). At 15.39, it disappeared from radar screens," a spokeswoman for Russia's Emergencies Ministry said by telephone.
Igor Krol, a spokeman for the Ukrainian ministry told 5th Channel television that, according to preliminary information, a fire broke out in the plane at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet).
The crew then decided to make an emergency landing.
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Russian airliner crashes in eastern Ukraine
KIEV (Reuters) - A Russian airliner with at least 154 people on board crashed in flames on Tuesday in eastern Ukraine after a failed emergency landing.
Russia's Emergencies Ministry said 30 bodies had been found. No survivors have yet been detected.
Ukraine's Emergencies Ministry said helicopters circling the site about 45 km (30 miles) outside the regional town of Donetsk saw the Soviet-designed Tu-154 in flames.
The Russian ministry said 160 passengers and 10 crew were aboard the aircraft belonging to Pulkovo Airlines. Ukrainian officials said the plane had 154 people on board.
Flight 612 took off from Russia's Black Sea resort of Anapa and was bound for Russia's second city of St Petersburg. Its route went across Ukrainian territory.
"The aircraft issued an SOS at 15:37 (Moscow time -- 12:37 p.m.British time). At 15.39, it disappeared from radar screens," a spokeswoman for Russia's Emergencies Ministry said by telephone.
Ihor Krol, a spokesman for the Ukrainian ministry, told 5th Channel television that a fire may have broken out in the plane at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet).
The crew decided to make an emergency landing.
The Tu-154, dating from Soviet times, is the workhorse of most airlines operating in ex-Soviet states. The crash was the second involving a regional Russian airline this year.
In July, an Airbus A-310 belonging to Sibir airlines crashed and burst into flames after veering off the runway in Irkutsk, killing 122 people.
In May 113 people, including Russians, died when an Airbus A-320 belonging to Armenian airline Armavia crashed on its way from Yerevan to the Russian resort of Sochi.
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KIEV (Reuters) - A Russian airliner with at least 154 people on board crashed in flames on Tuesday in eastern Ukraine after a failed emergency landing.
Russia's Emergencies Ministry said 30 bodies had been found. No survivors have yet been detected.
Ukraine's Emergencies Ministry said helicopters circling the site about 45 km (30 miles) outside the regional town of Donetsk saw the Soviet-designed Tu-154 in flames.
The Russian ministry said 160 passengers and 10 crew were aboard the aircraft belonging to Pulkovo Airlines. Ukrainian officials said the plane had 154 people on board.
Flight 612 took off from Russia's Black Sea resort of Anapa and was bound for Russia's second city of St Petersburg. Its route went across Ukrainian territory.
"The aircraft issued an SOS at 15:37 (Moscow time -- 12:37 p.m.British time). At 15.39, it disappeared from radar screens," a spokeswoman for Russia's Emergencies Ministry said by telephone.
Ihor Krol, a spokesman for the Ukrainian ministry, told 5th Channel television that a fire may have broken out in the plane at an altitude of 10,000 metres (33,000 feet).
The crew decided to make an emergency landing.
The Tu-154, dating from Soviet times, is the workhorse of most airlines operating in ex-Soviet states. The crash was the second involving a regional Russian airline this year.
In July, an Airbus A-310 belonging to Sibir airlines crashed and burst into flames after veering off the runway in Irkutsk, killing 122 people.
In May 113 people, including Russians, died when an Airbus A-320 belonging to Armenian airline Armavia crashed on its way from Yerevan to the Russian resort of Sochi.
Reuters
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Some pictures and info on the craft in the link below.
KIEV, Ukraine -
A Russian passenger jet carrying at least 170 people — including 45 children — crashed Tuesday in eastern Ukraine after sending a distress signal, killing all aboard, authorities said.
A Russian news agency said officials had ruled out terrorism, but the cause of the crash was still unclear, with various officials citing turbulence, lightning and a fire on board.The Pulkovo Airlines Tu-154 was en route from the Russian Black Sea resort of Anapa to St. Petersburg and disappeared from radar screens while flying over eastern Ukraine around 2:30 p.m., Russian and Ukrainian emergency officials said.The plane's tail section and other burning debris were found north of the city of Donetsk, about 400 miles east of Kiev, by residents about two hours after the distress signal was sent, said Mykhaylo Korsakov, spokesman for the Donetsk department of Emergency Situations Ministry.
Anatoly Simushin, deputy director of the St. Petersburg-based carrier that there were 170 people on board, including 45 children.
"Unfortunately, we believe that no one managed to survive," Russian Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Irina Andriyanova said in televised comments.
A bad thunderstorm was raging in the area at the time of the crash, said a spokeswoman for the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Ministry in Donetsk, who identified herself only as Yelena. She said there was lightning and heavy winds.
Interfax quoted Ukrainian Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Igor Krol as saying a fire broke out on the plane at 32,800 feet and that the crew decided to try to make an emergency landing. Interfax also quoted Russian aviation official Alexander Neradko as saying that the plane might have run into strong turbulence.
Andriyanova said she received information that "the plane most likely was hit by lightning."
"There was no damage on the ground. After it fell, it broke apart and burst into flames," Andriyanova said in televised comments.
Interfax cited witnesses as saying the plane was intact when it hit the ground. The RIA-Novosti news agency later quoted Andriyanova as saying "terrorism has been ruled out."
The plane disappeared from radar screens two minutes after the crew sent a distress signal, said Yulia Stadnikova, another Russian spokeswoman. Officials could not confirm Russian agency reports that said the plane's crew sent out four SOS messages before the crash.
Pulkovo Airlines is among Russia's largest carriers.
It was the third major plane crash in the region this year, and came less than two months after at least 124 people died when an Airbus A-310 of the Russian carrier S7 skidded off a runway and burst into flames on July 9 in the Siberian city of Irkutsk.
On May 3, an A-320 of the Armenian airline Armavia crashed into the Black Sea while trying to land in the Russian resort city of Sochi in rough weather, killing all 113 people aboard.
Russian-made Tu-154s are widely used by Russian airlines for many regional flights.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060822/...u/russia_plane
KIEV, Ukraine -
A Russian passenger jet carrying at least 170 people — including 45 children — crashed Tuesday in eastern Ukraine after sending a distress signal, killing all aboard, authorities said.
A Russian news agency said officials had ruled out terrorism, but the cause of the crash was still unclear, with various officials citing turbulence, lightning and a fire on board.The Pulkovo Airlines Tu-154 was en route from the Russian Black Sea resort of Anapa to St. Petersburg and disappeared from radar screens while flying over eastern Ukraine around 2:30 p.m., Russian and Ukrainian emergency officials said.The plane's tail section and other burning debris were found north of the city of Donetsk, about 400 miles east of Kiev, by residents about two hours after the distress signal was sent, said Mykhaylo Korsakov, spokesman for the Donetsk department of Emergency Situations Ministry.
Anatoly Simushin, deputy director of the St. Petersburg-based carrier that there were 170 people on board, including 45 children.
"Unfortunately, we believe that no one managed to survive," Russian Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Irina Andriyanova said in televised comments.
A bad thunderstorm was raging in the area at the time of the crash, said a spokeswoman for the Ukrainian Emergency Situations Ministry in Donetsk, who identified herself only as Yelena. She said there was lightning and heavy winds.
Interfax quoted Ukrainian Emergency Situations Ministry spokesman Igor Krol as saying a fire broke out on the plane at 32,800 feet and that the crew decided to try to make an emergency landing. Interfax also quoted Russian aviation official Alexander Neradko as saying that the plane might have run into strong turbulence.
Andriyanova said she received information that "the plane most likely was hit by lightning."
"There was no damage on the ground. After it fell, it broke apart and burst into flames," Andriyanova said in televised comments.
Interfax cited witnesses as saying the plane was intact when it hit the ground. The RIA-Novosti news agency later quoted Andriyanova as saying "terrorism has been ruled out."
The plane disappeared from radar screens two minutes after the crew sent a distress signal, said Yulia Stadnikova, another Russian spokeswoman. Officials could not confirm Russian agency reports that said the plane's crew sent out four SOS messages before the crash.
Pulkovo Airlines is among Russia's largest carriers.
It was the third major plane crash in the region this year, and came less than two months after at least 124 people died when an Airbus A-310 of the Russian carrier S7 skidded off a runway and burst into flames on July 9 in the Siberian city of Irkutsk.
On May 3, an A-320 of the Armenian airline Armavia crashed into the Black Sea while trying to land in the Russian resort city of Sochi in rough weather, killing all 113 people aboard.
Russian-made Tu-154s are widely used by Russian airlines for many regional flights.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060822/...u/russia_plane
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A Russian passenger plane carrying 170 people has crashed in eastern Ukraine.
The Tupolev-154M was flying from the Russian Black Sea resort of Anapa to St Petersburg when it crashed not far from the city of Donetsk. The airliner was operated by Pulkovo Airlines, Russia’s Emergencies Ministry told RBC.
There were about 170 people on board, including 160 passengers, among them 45 children, and ten crew. All of them are thought to have died.
The crew sent out a distress signal at 15:37 Moscow time, and the airliner disappeared from radar screens two minutes later, at 15:39.
The wreckage has been found near the Novgorodskoye village about 45km (30 miles) north of Donetsk. The crash site has been cordoned off by the police. Thirty bodies have been removed from the wreckage. The search and rescue operation has been complicated by fire and bad weather.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov to form a government commission to investigate the cause of the crash, the presidential press office reported.
This is not the first air incident in Ukraine involving a Russian Tu-154 plane. In October 2001, a Tu-154 operated by the Sibir airline company was downed during Ukrainian military exercises. There were 78 people on board, and all of them died. The plane was flying from Tel Aviv to Russia’s Novosibirsk.
© RBC
The Tupolev-154M was flying from the Russian Black Sea resort of Anapa to St Petersburg when it crashed not far from the city of Donetsk. The airliner was operated by Pulkovo Airlines, Russia’s Emergencies Ministry told RBC.
There were about 170 people on board, including 160 passengers, among them 45 children, and ten crew. All of them are thought to have died.
The crew sent out a distress signal at 15:37 Moscow time, and the airliner disappeared from radar screens two minutes later, at 15:39.
The wreckage has been found near the Novgorodskoye village about 45km (30 miles) north of Donetsk. The crash site has been cordoned off by the police. Thirty bodies have been removed from the wreckage. The search and rescue operation has been complicated by fire and bad weather.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked Prime Minister Mikhail Fradkov to form a government commission to investigate the cause of the crash, the presidential press office reported.
This is not the first air incident in Ukraine involving a Russian Tu-154 plane. In October 2001, a Tu-154 operated by the Sibir airline company was downed during Ukrainian military exercises. There were 78 people on board, and all of them died. The plane was flying from Tel Aviv to Russia’s Novosibirsk.
© RBC
Beats me why so many of you have to post what is essentially the same information albeit from different news agencies! I think we know the basics now. As for the cause, well that will be up to the experienced investigators to find.
My local TV ran the footage from the crash scene. It seems that airplane is mightily shredded but all of the wreckage is within relativelly small debris field and there is no prominent impact crater. Now, before anyone starts wild speculations, I'll just say that this is only indication of the state in which the doomed aircraft met the ground and it says nothing about the way the airplane got into this state.
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Here's a little more in-depth report coming out of Reuters….
http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22
http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22
I get more and more irritated by the way aircraft accidents are reported in the media, especially those that occur in the Eastern bloc.
The authorities in the Eastern bloc seem far too eager to give an immediate explanation as to what the cause of the accident was - comments such as "the aircraft was struck by lightning..." or the "cause of the accident was bad weather..." etc do little to improve public confidence or knowledge of flying. Is it part of the culture in the Eastern bloc that the appropriate Minister seems duty bound to give an immediate statement? How an earth can anyone know what the cause of any accident is before a proper investigation has been carried out?
Can anyone tell me if there has ever been a documented case of an airliner being downed as a DIRECT result of being struck by lightning?
The authorities in the Eastern bloc seem far too eager to give an immediate explanation as to what the cause of the accident was - comments such as "the aircraft was struck by lightning..." or the "cause of the accident was bad weather..." etc do little to improve public confidence or knowledge of flying. Is it part of the culture in the Eastern bloc that the appropriate Minister seems duty bound to give an immediate statement? How an earth can anyone know what the cause of any accident is before a proper investigation has been carried out?
Can anyone tell me if there has ever been a documented case of an airliner being downed as a DIRECT result of being struck by lightning?
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Dec.8, 1963 near Baltimore MD Pan Am Boeing 707-121
struck by lightning, ignited fuel vapors from trailing edge vents. Static wicks made mandatory on transport category aircraft after that I beleive. Link:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19631208-0
Also, Aug. 11, 1957 near Issoudun Quebec, Maritime Central Airways DC-4 entered thunderstorm and crashes, witness on ground links thunder with subsequent explosion and crash. Probable cause,
lightning, not conclusive.
struck by lightning, ignited fuel vapors from trailing edge vents. Static wicks made mandatory on transport category aircraft after that I beleive. Link:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...?id=19631208-0
Also, Aug. 11, 1957 near Issoudun Quebec, Maritime Central Airways DC-4 entered thunderstorm and crashes, witness on ground links thunder with subsequent explosion and crash. Probable cause,
lightning, not conclusive.
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Agree with you completely about 'Eastern Bloc' haste to come up with some jabber about probable cause etc.
Unless it's a recently sunk large boat called Kursk, perhaps.
Different handbook applies then.
One statement earlier today was that after an in-flight emergency "the landing gear failed to deploy and the aircraft landed on its belly."
Quite so.
Unless it's a recently sunk large boat called Kursk, perhaps.
Different handbook applies then.
One statement earlier today was that after an in-flight emergency "the landing gear failed to deploy and the aircraft landed on its belly."
Quite so.
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Wonder if their WX radar was serviceable? Maritime Central Airways: Thats a company name I havn't heard for years. Later became Nordair,years later into Canadian.....then last but not least,the unthinkable....AC..AArrggghh
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Was there actually any voice communication with the aircraft after the emergency began? If not, how can they say that the aircraft was 'struck by lightning' and that there was a 'fire on board' if there was no report by the crew, so soon after the crash apart from just making it up. I would suggest that apart from perhaps the report of local thunderstorm activity and that the aircraft appears to have come down in a more or less flat attitude (am I interpretting the photos correctly?) there is nothing much that can be said about the circumstances of this accident as yet.
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Returning to the actual subject of the thread...
Here's a Russian news story (English translation a little less than fluent, but comprehensible) claiming that three Maydays were transmitted. Not clear yet how much information was transmitted along with them.
Here's a Russian news story (English translation a little less than fluent, but comprehensible) claiming that three Maydays were transmitted. Not clear yet how much information was transmitted along with them.
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The authorities in the Eastern bloc seem far too eager to give an immediate explanation as to what the cause of the accident was
Today's edition of the Moscow Times has a photo claimed to be the flight taking off from Anapa. Very sobering if true.
With regard to lightning, if it helps the analysis here the sferics data indicates a high degree of electrical activity in the region at the time of the accident.
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Originally Posted by fireflybob
How an earth can anyone know what the cause of any accident is before a proper investigation has been carried out?
Investigator-In-Charge (he who signs the final report) "Good morning lady and gentlemen, I wish you good speed in finding the facts of the accident and in your analysis. This accident had nothing to do with the State of xxxx"
Strange, as my work on the investigation showed it had quite a lot to do with the State of xxxx and their complete lack of oversight of what was going on. Unlicensed personnel, inappropriate procedures, no safety management systems, no CAA approval process blah blah blah. Strange, he also missed all of that out in the part of the report written by the State of xxxx.
