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Old 11th Aug 2006, 15:52
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Asiana Airliner Takes off without Cabin Crew

1. Any comment on how this could happen?

2. What type airplane plies this route?

Asiana airplane takes off minus its cabin attendants

An Asiana Airlines domestic flight from Incheon in South Korea to the southern Jeju islands was in the air for 30 minutes before the captain discovered to his surprise that the plane had left without its cabin crew on Tuesday, the Seoul Times reported. After emergency communications with the control tower, the plane hurriedly returned to pick up the cabin attendants. Due to this rare incident, the plane was about 50 minutes behind schedule.

Aviation authorizes have started an investigation into the case.

The plane, which was flying to Jeju islands via Daegu airport, was due to pick up passengers from another Asiana Airlines domestic flight which was crippled shortly before e departure for the Jeju islands. Asiana Airlines, South Korea's second air carrier after Korean Air.
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Is it April 1 already?
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they must be very short of cabin crew...
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Link please.
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From the Seoul Times

The plane was supposed to pick up 180 stranded passengers of another Asiana Airlines' domestic flight which was crippled at Daegu airport shortly before departure for Jeju island. Asiana Airllines was dispatching is replacement plane to Daegu airport.
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Hopefully a direct link here.

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Slow cup of tea? / ''Cabin secure'? / Who closed the entrance door? - cannot be true.
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Doesn't add much except confusion....

http://english.donga.com/srv/service...=2006081097018

On last July 30, Asiana Airlines made a disturbing admission that a flight returned to Incheon Airport only 30 minutes after takeoff because it forgot to take four cabin crews on board.

This flight was put into an air route from Daegu to Jeju instead of a regular flight path to Jeju Island due to bad weather. At Daegu Airport, some 150 passengers who had been scheduled to start off to Jeju on the morning of that day were demanding an alternative flight.

This mistake of not picking up cabin crews resulted from miscommunication between the control tower and pilot of that aircraft.

The control tower confirmed all pilots’ aboard with a mention that “all crew are aboard.” However, the pilot misunderstood “crew” to include flight attendants and made a takeoff without any flight attendants. Realizing this too late, the pilot headed back to Incheon Airport in 30 minutes and took off again to Daegu after picking up flight attendants.


http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/2006...7485068040.htm

On July 30, an Asiana Airlines' plane took off from Incheon International Airport without carrying its cabin crew and had to return to the airport after the flight deck officer realized the situation, according to the Seoul Regional Aviation Administration Wednesday.

The flight departed empty from Inchon for Taegu where it was supposed to pick up passengers for Cheju Island _ a replacement plane able to land at Taegu in bad weather was used for the trip.

The plane took off from Incheon around 2 p.m. after a crew boarding check. But 30 minutes later, the pilots and the airline realized the cabin crew, who would serve passengers from Taegu, had been left behind at the airport.

The administration said there was a misunderstanding between ground crew and flight crew before takeoff. When checking crew's boarding, the ground crew understood ``crew'' as ``flight crew,'' so told pilots that all crew were on board. The pilots understood that ``all crew'' included ``cabin crew,'' so they left the airport.

The flight immediately returned to Inchon where the cabin crew boarded and then took off for Taegu 50 minutes late.

The plane then carried 120 passengers who were waiting at Taegu airport to their final destination of Cheju.

``We first planned to cancel the flight from Taegu to Cheju, but hastily arranged the substitute following passengers' complaints in Taegu,'' an Asiana official said.

``We wondered why the plane returned to Incheon airport 30 minutes after takeoff, and later realized no cabin crew were on board,'' an official of the aviation administration said.
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Good fun but just impossible....must have been a positioning crew that was left behind. That should be a lesson about believing the press....
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 21:17
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Sure sounds like a simulator scenario
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 22:39
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C.R.M issue?

Joking aside, probably the FD thought no CC were planned. We fly A330's with 2 pilots all alone, when positioning empty. Surely this thread is a skit.
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 22:50
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"Emergency communications with the control tower"........? What, a PAN or a MAYDAY?
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Old 11th Aug 2006, 22:56
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The Maître de cabine was the PIC Mother in Law.
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 00:30
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Let me guess....He failed to notice that he took off with the door open and only noticed that the crew were missing when he called back for a cup of tea!!!
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 01:52
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Well, many Asian and Middle Eastern airlines do put a flight attendant on board to serve the pilots on a ferry flight...
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 07:39
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Well...What can i say?

Silly.....but not funny.

I wonder what is going on with Asiana Airlines.
Company doesn't reveal much about it.
Asiana tried to hide as much as they can, whenever this kind of things happen.

I have heard that there are several silly things happen beside of this.
No details are given, Short company notices or
Just rumors are spread through from mouth to mouth.

The only concern in Asiana is how to bust "UNION", nothing else.

If you are a scab, they will cover your ass at any cost.
but If you are a union member or expat, all the humiliation will be poured on your head.

Silly but not funny.
I’m worrying how long Asiana will survive.
It might be not a bad company in the past but not any more.
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 08:44
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The way I read it the flight was empty (no pax) when it departed. The pilot probably thought the cabin crew were meeting the plane when it picked up pax at Taegu. One of the flightdeck probably shut the doors.
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 09:36
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What a load of b.....ks! I wonder who closed the L1 door before pushback, which dispatcher would have removed the airbridge/steps without a cabin crew present, who passed the "all doors armed" report, the cabin secure report, etc. How about the flight crew briefing for the flight and NOT briefing the cabin crew since they weren't any but still proceeding to the aircraft?

The whole story's so stupid it's laughable!

If this was indeed a positioning flight, then the flight crew may have closed/armed the doors themselves... maybe a subtle hint that the cabin crew are not there?
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Old 12th Aug 2006, 14:51
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What's the equipment used on this route?

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