No Prosecution for BA from FAA
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Originally Posted by MercenaryAli
... and BA should be fined for operating an unairworthy airplane.
I thought Joe Sutter et al designed it with four big donks to make sure it kept flying (ie. remained 'airworthy') with one out, no?
ATEOTD what ever we think, the authorities concerned have spoken and no fine is to be levied. Maybe the good bit in all this is that they spoke to each other, discussed the issue and came to a common conclusion. Let's all leave it at that
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If you follow the FAA's position to its logical conclusion, they'd end up fining themselves for certifying the a/c that way in the first place ....
A la Fawlty : "Who's a naughty boy, then?" spank spank
How embarrassing, and shows how little 4-eng long-haul experience there is left in the FAA.
A la Fawlty : "Who's a naughty boy, then?" spank spank
How embarrassing, and shows how little 4-eng long-haul experience there is left in the FAA.
Although many at the FAA have flown some heavy 4-engine turbofan aircraft, there has been a bit of confusion about how to conduct at least one random training or checking event over the years.
Several sources years ago described a totally unnecessary tragedy, involving a DC-8 during takeoff from New Orleans (MSY)-during the 1970s? There was some sort of training or check flight involving the plane which had only crewmembers and a Line FAA Inspector.
Sometime during or just after rotating to the takeoff pitch attitude, the FAA Inspector jerked back 2 throttles to idle, or cut off 2 fuel control levers! Here is the problem: the sudden simulated emergency was not discussed with any crewmembers, and both throttles were reportedly on the same side and the plane was below its 2-engine Vmc!
As they yawed and rolled over towards their deaths, maybe fumbling to shove both throttles forward, one pilot or maybe the FE
had the presence of mind to turn to the FAA Inspector and say (from the CVR) "You dumb$h*t"!
Might this apparently isolated tragedy have been the tip of the iceberg regarding the level of standardization with the FAA towards understanding how to train or check out pilots on a 4-engine aircraft?
Several sources years ago described a totally unnecessary tragedy, involving a DC-8 during takeoff from New Orleans (MSY)-during the 1970s? There was some sort of training or check flight involving the plane which had only crewmembers and a Line FAA Inspector.
Sometime during or just after rotating to the takeoff pitch attitude, the FAA Inspector jerked back 2 throttles to idle, or cut off 2 fuel control levers! Here is the problem: the sudden simulated emergency was not discussed with any crewmembers, and both throttles were reportedly on the same side and the plane was below its 2-engine Vmc!
As they yawed and rolled over towards their deaths, maybe fumbling to shove both throttles forward, one pilot or maybe the FE
had the presence of mind to turn to the FAA Inspector and say (from the CVR) "You dumb$h*t"!Might this apparently isolated tragedy have been the tip of the iceberg regarding the level of standardization with the FAA towards understanding how to train or check out pilots on a 4-engine aircraft?
