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Old 8th Aug 2006, 08:57
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To quote Betjeman "Come friendly bombs and land on Slough"
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Lon More
To quote Betjeman "Come friendly bombs and land on Slough"
I was waiting for that ......
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 10:14
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faheel :
As if any "terrorist" would travel under his right name to the US sheesh !
Who said the passenger was travelling under his real name

More "assumptions" and knocks at the Security services who are, after all, only trying to protect us

Is there not just a remote possibility, that the security services might have figured that some "terrorists" will not use their real names? - and that they also have a list of known aliases on their "No-Fly" list

Without KNOWING the facts, how can the services be criticised for their actions ? - Do you really think they would have allowed the 777 to lift KNOWING someone was on board on the list ? I don't. So "assuming" they didn't know until after the flight commenced - what options were there ?

Allow the flight to continue to destination with someone on board that they suspect shouldn't be on board ?

Divert elsewhere ( WHERE ) ?

Return to point of departure - Where it is feasible to "assume" that there may be easier access to any information concerning the individual - to help resolve the matter one way or the other ?

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Old 8th Aug 2006, 14:24
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They could have diverted to Prestwick, as other flights have been required to do in the recent past.


But maybe that would have put the "terrorist" suspects rather too close to the C130s transiting through EGPK
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 15:21
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Originally Posted by faheel
I recently had to apply for a US visa and one of the questions was (amongst a bunch of other inane ones) was "do you intend to engage in terrorist activities" !!
Yeah right and the answer to that would be yes????
It's not quite as silly as it looks at first. They ask you a bunch of apparently dumb questions because, if you're found to have replied incorrectly to any of them, they don't have to prove anything else.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 17:12
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Originally Posted by faheel
I recently had to apply for a US visa and one of the questions was (amongst a bunch of other inane ones) was "do you intend to engage in terrorist activities" !!
Yeah right and the answer to that would be yes????
Nobody expects you to answer "yes". The reason for this question is that in case you do "engage in terrorist activities" or are suspected of it, you can easily be arrested and held because you lied on you application.
 
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If there's one cheerful silver lining in the cloud of security over-reaction, it's that this demonstrates that US airlines are also prone to this sort of event. It's not a vendetta against UK (or other non-US) airlines.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 22:00
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All airlines carry multi-national pax. I suppose El-Al could even carry the odd palestinian.
I await to see if the AA pax questioned were US citizens.
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Old 9th Aug 2006, 16:24
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They were GB passport holders.
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Old 9th Aug 2006, 21:24
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The passenger of interest was a Kurd.
Times:
A FLIGHT to the United States was ordered to turn back over the Atlantic by American security agents because a Kurdish passenger was named on a no-fly list, US officials said yesterday.

After the American Airlines flight touched down at Heathrow, the man, his mother and his two sisters were questioned by Special Branch officers then released without charge.

Yesterday, as American Airlines completed arrangements for the other 236 passengers to reach the United States, police said that the man was not wanted in Britain and of “no interest” to counterterrorist officers.
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Old 9th Aug 2006, 21:49
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