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Michael O'Leary - AIR-FACED CHEEK

Old 26th Oct 2001, 06:46
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Got this from the front of 'The Star' One of Irelands tabloid newspapers: (interesting side bar of journalists that they show a picture of an A321 instead of an A330 which is used for TA)

Ryanair boss Michael O'Leary stopped his attacks on Aer Lingus this week - to fly first class to the US with the national carrier.

The companys arch enemy relaxed in his £3,060 seat for the trip to Los Angeles just 24 hours after lashing the airline on national radio.

Astonished Aer Lingus staff couln't believe their eyes as Mr O'Leary checked in for the 8am flight on Tuesday.

Only last week O'Leary outraged Aer Lingus employees when he said that it was 'tough s**t' that 2500 workers were to lose their jobs.
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Wonder if he ate anything?
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Old 26th Oct 2001, 13:05
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I recall that - not too long ago - there was an interview with MO'L which I posted on here, in which he said that only corporate fat cats and civil servants fly in J class (EI doesn't have F, btw) at other people's expense and that he considers it such a waste of money he'd never pay for it himself.

So, I wonder who paid? FR - and therefore the shareholders - or did MO'L have a bit of a memory lapse and cough up the readies himself? Not that he can't afford it, of course!

I wonder how many EI staff slipped him their CVs?
 
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He was a speaker at a conference in LA.

The organizers paid for it.
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Children, Children! Stop worrying about someone else's good fortune. Make your own.

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xsimba, I believe he had a coffee, and was pleasantly surprised that, when it arrived, it turned out to be a cappucino

I shall console myself with the thought that, when he's lost all his money and his airline and is begging for change on the street, I shall step on his knuckles!
"Lose everything did you? Tough s**t"
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He just appeared (by videolink) on BBC2's
Working Lunch and got a good grilling by Adrian

He was questioning M O'L about the £50 charge they are imposing on those who wish to have their Pilot CV READ, and more importantly, that all the information directed to the website (All CV personal details) is unsecure and can be read by anyone

Naturally, he counterclaimed this with the fact that this is good news in the airline world and the site maybe secure by the end of next week.

Of course, as Irelands current TV star with more airtime than Dana,Boyzone and Gloria Hunniford could ever wish for in a lifetime,
his Advertising budget will soon be close to Zero :- - the everpresent plug was there - the million seats at £15 feature was forced upon the viewers, even though this had B****r all to do with the programme feature.

I propose a ban on this man being seen on UK tv for at least 6 months unless he is made to sign a contract declaring he will not appear on it for advertising purposes (like he always does).
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Next time I fly across the pond, I plan to spend the entire flight in the aft toilets in protest. That'll show MO'L and his cronies how serious I am about starting up scheduled transatlantic flights!
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Old 26th Oct 2001, 16:51
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For those who missed M O'L's stunning performance on Working Lunch and have RealPlayer on their PC then go to the following page and click on View Today's Show.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/aud...ch/default.stm

Some performance by Michael! Do all pilots earn £100K at Ryanair?
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Yes, when you factor in hidden costs such as access to the terminal car park, security passes, uniforms, staff travel, paid travel to and from sim checks etc.
After all that is taken into consideration, new FOs can expect to see £6500 pa plus sector cheques. And Captains can hope for £40,000 pa plus sector cheques.
We're all incredibly rich and love MOL for it, and letting us keep our jobs.
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Being made redundant is bad enough, but receiving an email saying that your application has been deleted and it will cost you £50 to resubmit is just adding insult to injury. Also there's more: Quote "Our selection process involves a review of applications received via our
on-line database followed by an interview and Simulator Assessment.
There will be a processing fee for both interview and simulator
assessment of STG£50 and STG£150 respectively. " Unquote. Additionally they have decided not to bond non type rated people, but to charge a fee of £15K to do the course.

Sorry to all you guys & gals who work at Ryanair, but this has annoyed me so much in my current situation that I will persuade every friend and colleague to avoid Ryanair on principle. It may not affect them much, but I'll ensure it costs them much more than the money they tried to extort from me!!

O'Leary can kick us when we're down, but he might need a large towel to wipe the spit out of his eye on this one.
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Old 26th Oct 2001, 19:25
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I seem to recall that all current and retired airline Chief Executives get free 1st Class travel on other scheduled airlines.

No doubt you will soon be able to confirm that.
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Just watched the Working Lunch Interview. I'm speechless!

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So who would want to hack the CVs from Ryans then? Theyre only useful to another airline shurely and youre gonna be surprised to be getting a call out of the blue from Air XYZ offering yo a job when you only applied to Ryans!
 
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M.Mouse - only usually appplies if you're an IATA carrier or if you have interline agreements with other carriers. Otherwise at best you can maybe wangle an ID50 or an ID75 but there are so many good deals around these day;s you're better off paying commercial! Back in the halcyon days of the 80s though, life was a lot easier ... I even used to get freebies on Concorde!
 
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Sid's Stars, I think the concern is handing over your credit card details on an insecure website rather than everybody reading the bull**** on my rather impressive CV!
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Repeated as it seems to be relevant to this thread as well...

I got this 'send us 50 quid or sod off' message from the Ryanair postmaster as well, and almost fell over in disbelief. How would they expect applicants who are applying to even a small a number of different organisations to feel happy about paying for EACH???? I don't very often post on PPrune, but I did want to check the chat carefully to ensure that this wasn't a hoax. I think it's quite outrageous (as far as I know this practice would be totally illegal if they were based in the UK).
So, instead I went to yahoo.com and just typed in 'flight crew jobs'...

I'm still aghast at the arrogance of Ryanair, and it would be natural justice if nobody paid up, but as has been said, it may be a sign of the times.
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I have to agree with that. Expecting people who are in almost all cases very hard up, having paid God knows how much for their training, or having been made redundant, to pay £50 (an entire week's dole money) just to read a CV is totally ridiculous.

How are people supposed to apply to, say, 40-50 airlines if everyone were to apply this?

I'd prefer to keep my money, spend it on keeping myself current and wait for a job with a real airline.

I suggest a total boycott of applications to RyanAir.
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its the £15,000 for a type rating that did it for me not the £50
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Just watched the bbc prog.

What a nasty, arrogant, self serving, self publicising and smug little toe-rag the man is.

Somehow 'would you like fries with that' sounds a much more honourable speach than:

'Good morning ladies and gentlemen, and welcome aboard this Ryanair service'

Tw*t

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