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Old 3rd Jul 2006, 16:28
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Thomas Cook 757 diverted to Toronto YYZ with mechanical problems

July 3, 2006

Jetliner diverted to Toronto

TORONTO (CP) - A Boeing 757 jetliner bound for Ireland with about 200 people aboard was escorted by a military plane to a safe landing in Toronto late Sunday after experiencing mechanical problems, officials said.

The Thomas Cook Airlines flight left Montreal's Trudeau International Airport for Shannon, Ireland, on Sunday night but turned around near Quebec City because of hydraulic problems, CJTN radio in Trenton, Ont., reported.

The pilot planned to land the plane, which had 194 passengers and about eight crew members aboard, at Trudeau International, but for unspecified reasons continued on to Toronto's Pearson International Airport.

A Hercules transport plane from CFB Trenton, Ont., was dispatched to accompany the jetliner, said Capt. Darrell Steele, a military spokesman in CFB Trenton.

"The Herc was tasked to follow this aircraft in until it landed at Pearson just in case it needed some assistance," said Steele.

"We were spooling up secondary resources just in case of the worst case scenario. If something was going to happen, we wanted to be prepared."

The plane landed safely at Pearson around 11 p.m. Sunday night.

"It ended being a non-event in the end. I'm sure it was exciting for the passengers, though," said Steele.
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The Herc was tasked to follow this aircraft in until it landed at Pearson just in case it needed some assistance
Like what?
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Fact 1: Bound for EGKK.
Fact 2: Lost centre Hydraulic pressure only.
Fact 3: Departed for EGKK after approx 90 mins after landing & quick fix.
Fact 4: 187 pax.
Fact 5. No drama.
Fact 5: Standard operating proceedure with this kind of Technical issue.
"It ended being a non-event in the end.
Always was a Non event (except for pax maybe)...these things happen.
End of story.
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The Herc was tasked to follow this aircraft in until it landed at Pearson just in case it needed some assistance

Another case of Canadian Government / Armed Forces paranoid over reaction!
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I'm sure it was exciting for the passengers, though
Not too sure that's the sort of exitement that I need when on a flight

"The Herc was tasked to follow this aircraft in until it landed at Pearson just in case it needed some assistance,"
Like, maybe, "can you get below me and make sure my gear looks good, and while you're at it, check how the flaps look". Come on guys!
Canadian Government / Armed Forces paranoid over reaction
If it had been anything other than a pure "help the guys out" reaction, surely it wouldn't have been a Herc! (which can fly slow, and keep pace with an airliner with full flaps, is virtually unarmed, couldn't keep up with an airliner "clean" on full power which might have "hostile" intentions, or do much about it . . . .)
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Centre system fairly light,two remaining ok I assume.Divert or Continue across the pond,roughly four hours,about the same as a Tenerife,interesting and in no way a critism of the crew.
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It was just a bit weird, the coyness about what assistance the CC-130 was providing and what kind of secondary assistance might have been spooling up...
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Obviously not that big a problem. He flew past four airports with 10,000 foot runways on his way back to YZ.
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Originally Posted by MarkDip
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Another case of Canadian Government / Armed Forces paranoid over reaction!
Care to elaborate on other cases?
Seems to me like the Canadian Forces had the hardware available at Trenton to help out a foreign visitor. And did so in a professional manner as always. Thanks for the assistance CFB Trenton
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It's a problem, but not 'land at the nearest suitable airport' so in my book it's perfectly okay to fly past several 10000ft runways to get to somewhere more convenient. The fact that the 10000ft runways were in close proximity would be a cause for comfort just in case another hyd system failed - which would be an emergency.
It's not a failure that I would wish to take across the Atlantic ETOPS though so I'm pleased that this crew were obviously not tempted to. I don't wish to provoke another 'press on across the Atlantic' argument though...

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I agree,
I suspect YYZ was good for TC B757 maintenance cover, a relatively minor failure but makes good sense not to fly it back to the UK ETOPS, so :-

A sensible decision to divert YES

A sensible diversion airport YES

Well done

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ExSimGuy states:
Like, maybe, "can you get below me and make sure my gear looks good, and while you're at it, check how the flaps look". Come on guys!
The above states it was the Center Hydraulic System on a 757. Would you expect any difficulties with Flaps/Slats/Gear/Steer?
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Skyservice Airlines being a source of B757 spares, YYZ was the sensible place to divert to. The circumstances did not warrant an immediate landing so why dive into the first available "10,000 ft" runway and then stay stranded there for hours (with crew possibly going out of hours) whilst awaiting the required parts? Looks to me as the whole thing was very well handled.
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I agree,
I suspect YYZ was good for TC B757 maintenance cover, a relatively minor failure but makes good sense not to fly it back to the UK ETOPS, so :-

A sensible decision to divert YES

A sensible diversion airport YES
Spot on.
BTW. The crew were instructed to fly YYZ for logistical reasons & speed of maintainence / Pax handling availible at that moment in time. Again, Aircraft was fixed within 1 hour & departed with minimum fuss. Great job by engineering & all concerned at Pearson.
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"Another case of Canadian Government / Armed Forces paranoid over reaction!"
How is a SAR Herc in loose accompaniment anything but but a good thing should things turn sour. My kind of paranoia.
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Avman - Good point - had forgotten SSV had 757s now. Makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by Simwings
I knew it had seperate hyrdollics; but read again - we were talking about a full hydrollics loss - nobody mentioned seperate failings.
I did. Third post on this thread clearly states centre hydraulics only.
Again, no drama.
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Originally Posted by MarkD
Avman - Good point - had forgotten SSV had 757s now. Makes a lot of sense.
Not only that, but Skyservice are the ones who take care of maintenance at YYZ for TCX. To me it also sounds like a job well done by all involved.
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