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++++ LUFTHANSA: 96 % VOTED PRO STRIKE ++++

Old 4th May 2001, 23:53
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Well done DLH guys!!! Keep it up!!

Lets hope that UK ATCers can follow your example!!!
 
Old 5th May 2001, 00:00
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Was watching ZDF a few mins ago. The German public didn't seem too impressed with the strike. (An observation, not a criticism). Joe Public, from what I could see, thinks your actions to be outrageous.

Now before someone starts throwing mud, that was off German news this evening. Nothing to do with any of my opinions.



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Old 5th May 2001, 00:03
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Cargorat:

This typically German attitude doesn´t bother us anymore (that´s what´s rather new)- We´ve got nothing to lose, and we´ll keep the pressure on.
 
Old 5th May 2001, 01:42
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CNN gave a similar slant to the story, CR2, by interviewing p!ssed-off pax....."I haven't had holidays for 2 years, and NOW look at how my plans are disrupted!", and "I drove for 3 hours to come to the airport - Lufthansa didn't tell me a thing about this."

I think we've ALL come to expect the usual "greedy, over-paid - it's an easy job" comments that invariably are aired by the press, and usually promoted by the airlines. However, the truth of the matter is, aviation is a cyclical industry, and pilots' wages - worldwide - were suppressed and even reduced mercilessly, when there was a trough several years ago, and we can expect to get the same treatment again, down the road.

The increases now, are not only a partial recouping of that lost income, but also payment for present and future increased productivity, and have been achieved by negotiation.

 
Old 5th May 2001, 03:34
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KaptM/Wonderbus
No argument; been in this biz since '89. Just thought it was appropriate to mention German TV reporting (Didn't bother with CNN, they keep repeating themselves hour after hour after, well you get the idea).

Ich wuensche euch viel glueck.

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Old 5th May 2001, 04:44
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Thank you DLH crews for showing us the only viable response to the American union-buster-style management techniques that we in European airlines now all live with.

I hope my colleagues in BA will be as resolute-we are going to need to be.
 
Old 5th May 2001, 08:53
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When we went on strike in the US about four years ago, it lasted two full weeks. It is a shame (schade) that we were not allowed to begin it with "micro" or "mini-strikes". Are they much more effective (wirksam?)?

And our differences were mostly about "scope language" - ironically,we were NOT very far apart on pay and retirement. By the way, the previous Delta Airlines pilot contract, according to our MEC's written contract comparison, had no language to deal with, therefore no protection from, corporate "fragmentation": z.B., if Delta Flight Operations and jets were bought and sold off in pieces (von einem weissen Hai gefressen)-no pilot jobs! Maybe this was improved in their new tentative contract.



[This message has been edited by Ignition Override (edited 05 May 2001).]
 
Old 5th May 2001, 15:23
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New "offer" on Mondays May 7th.

It will be "better" (the first one can´t be considered an offer) than the first, but nowhere near what we want.

Expect the next str*ke on Thursday May 10 from 0000LT to 2400LT.
 
Old 5th May 2001, 20:56
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go for it lads and stick at it
 
Old 6th May 2001, 01:07
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Thank you, partners in the skies. We need and appreciate your solidarity and moral support.
Don`t stop....
 
Old 6th May 2001, 07:53
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Viel Gluck dort druben!
 
Old 6th May 2001, 13:41
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Keep it up LH!

We at SAS are watching very close as we are headed down the same road very soon!!

time to claim the price
Heavydane
 
Old 6th May 2001, 14:21
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Best of luck from your italian colleagues!
 
Old 7th May 2001, 14:44
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Good luck from Switzerland.
However, don't lose common sense and think about the long term implications of such a huge pay rise. We all know it's a very cyclic business !

rtt
 
Old 8th May 2001, 01:35
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My Filipino friends have been raring to say: "If only they knew about pprune in June 98. They might have gotten some good ideas & morale boosts from you guys. Their strike could have been a success. But they had more than 96% "YES" votes, more than 98% actually.
Well, it's not yet over till now. Hope we all get what we want in the end."
"SCABS ARE THE WORST SCUM OF THE EARTH! (And I'm being kind to animals.)"
 
Old 8th May 2001, 02:32
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From your friends at British Airways, "Good Luck!" Stick in there.

Alien
 
Old 9th May 2001, 01:21
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Thank you!!

We appreciate it a lot!

Latest info:

Since yesterday Management and VC (our Union) are negotiating. Managm. has put forward a new offer.
Seems to be not good enough. Union has stated in a press conference (3 hrs ago) that we shall prepare for our already announced 24 hr strike on Thursday.

It will turn out to be quite silent over Germany that day!

Greetings from Krautland

Charly
 
Old 9th May 2001, 04:05
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Good Luck Guys and Gals...
Lead the way for us all. It's time for a change...

Fat Tony (BA)
 
Old 10th May 2001, 17:04
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Well, it was very calm and empty at MUC today...
What is the latest now?
 
Old 10th May 2001, 17:33
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So 30 odd % is reasonable is it?

The SR pilots agreed to a cut of 5% to save their airline.

No-one on this thread has shown owt but greed.

Of course it's easier to cheer the others than to take action yourself.......
 

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