Japan Airlines medical standard. Holy cow!!!
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Japan Airlines medical standard. Holy cow!!!
Just heard that JAL subsidiary JALways could not fill in enough pilots (all non-Japanese pilots hired through HACS and IASCO) for their DC-10 and B747 classes because hardly anyone passes their medical check in Los Angeles. Is this true? If so, are we all who are currently flying that unfit when compared with their standard, or is the JAL standard redicoulously high?
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I failed the medical in Dublin 7 years ago, they dont even tell you why, all I got from the doctor over there was there was nothing medically wrong with me and I would not lose my flying cat you have to be very careful what you say, the slightest moan or negative reaction will see you out on the streets.
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Everybody says indeed that JCAB medical examinations are quite "out of this world". They keep you for two days, it's more expensive than a 4 hr sim-check and it makes you feel like they're going to strap you in a rocket and hire you as a space monkey ! 
Now for the JALways contract in particular, a friend of mine applied and he was told that a few guys were hired but JAL didn't find a slot for their training, so they're still waiting and maybe they'll start in August.
But that's old news, it might have changed since...
Now for the JALways contract in particular, a friend of mine applied and he was told that a few guys were hired but JAL didn't find a slot for their training, so they're still waiting and maybe they'll start in August.
But that's old news, it might have changed since...
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The standards are tough. I completed an IASCO contract a year or so ago, and was asked if I was interested in this. I was, but when I heard of the medical standards, I decided not to waste anyone's time, even though I was a "shoe-in" to be hired as an IASCO alumni.
By the way, if anyone goes the IASCO route and has the pleasure of dealing with Louise Philips, believe me it is truly a pleasure.
Louise is a straight shooter, and her word is her bond. If she tells you something, consider it true.
By the way, if anyone goes the IASCO route and has the pleasure of dealing with Louise Philips, believe me it is truly a pleasure.
Louise is a straight shooter, and her word is her bond. If she tells you something, consider it true.
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Looks like you gotta have a physical condition of a test pilot to work for the Japanese, I guess. Stratocaster, looks like your buddy's slot was posponed because of the lack of "physically fit pilots" to start a class. They need 8 guys each class to start the June courses, it appears that, as of 2 weeks ago, they only got 4 for the DC10 and 2 for the B747. Don't know the latest figure though.
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Gus,
Be honest,Major Airlines has their own
standard,even you've been flyin around
like it or not you've to comply.
For instance CX,even you've already gain
hours as PIC but when you join'em,you got
to be started from the bottom,that's the Game.
Be Positive,there's nothing to do with the
Politics,trust me.
o_g
Be honest,Major Airlines has their own
standard,even you've been flyin around
like it or not you've to comply.
For instance CX,even you've already gain
hours as PIC but when you join'em,you got
to be started from the bottom,that's the Game.
Be Positive,there's nothing to do with the
Politics,trust me.
o_g
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Well, the Japanese medical standards is tough, but not that heavy duty.
If I could pass the tests....
Many guys in my class smoked and drank tons of beer. None of us were health food freaks or astronauts.
Eyesight, cholestrol and blood pressure were big items, but that was 10 years ago.
Don't know if things have changed, but many of the Japanese pilots also smoked a couple of packs a day and enjoyed their shots of Saki and glasses of beer.
Politics? Yes, for a while the medical department kept flunking candidates as they were not consulted on new hiring. After the proper meetings and many cups of tea later, more ex-pats got accepted and everybody was happy.
The moral of the story? Uh, if they like you, they pass you.
Be humble, look down, don't shake hands, and in general: Play the game.
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If I could pass the tests....
Many guys in my class smoked and drank tons of beer. None of us were health food freaks or astronauts.
Eyesight, cholestrol and blood pressure were big items, but that was 10 years ago.
Don't know if things have changed, but many of the Japanese pilots also smoked a couple of packs a day and enjoyed their shots of Saki and glasses of beer.
Politics? Yes, for a while the medical department kept flunking candidates as they were not consulted on new hiring. After the proper meetings and many cups of tea later, more ex-pats got accepted and everybody was happy.
The moral of the story? Uh, if they like you, they pass you.
Be humble, look down, don't shake hands, and in general: Play the game.
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Men, this is no drill...
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The JCAB medical standards are quite high and, in some cases, a bit unusual.
For example, the JCAB has a maximum weight/height limit. Take your height in centimeters, subtract 100, then multiply by 9. That's your ideal weight in kilos. Multiply that by 1.3 and you get your JCAB weight limit. One kilo over that and you fail the medical, even if you've been flying for the Japanese for years.
If you're a serious marathon runner, you could fail the resting pulse test. Minimum is around 48.
And you must be able to stand on one foot with your eyes closed for 2 minutes (although this can be learned).
For example, the JCAB has a maximum weight/height limit. Take your height in centimeters, subtract 100, then multiply by 9. That's your ideal weight in kilos. Multiply that by 1.3 and you get your JCAB weight limit. One kilo over that and you fail the medical, even if you've been flying for the Japanese for years.
If you're a serious marathon runner, you could fail the resting pulse test. Minimum is around 48.
And you must be able to stand on one foot with your eyes closed for 2 minutes (although this can be learned).
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It would appear that the JCAB are being quite generous if they use the 1.3 factor.
Using the Body mass index(BMI) calculator
BMI=weight(kgs)/height(metres)squared
where the ideal BMI is classed as 19 to 25
Using JCAB formula gives a mid range BMI of 22. Add the 1.3 factor and you end up with a BMI of 28 well into the overweight area.Which is 26 to 30. So as I said before a generous excursion from the norm.
Using the Body mass index(BMI) calculator
BMI=weight(kgs)/height(metres)squared
where the ideal BMI is classed as 19 to 25
Using JCAB formula gives a mid range BMI of 22. Add the 1.3 factor and you end up with a BMI of 28 well into the overweight area.Which is 26 to 30. So as I said before a generous excursion from the norm.
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Well guys I have just done the JAL thing three weeks ago. Interview and sim are straight forward as long as you listen and hear their hints for the ride!!
As for the medical, that's another story!!
One full day of medical tests and then the mental quizzzzzzzz...... close to five hundred questions in as fast as you can do them! I would not say that the medical is that difficult because you can not control or prepare for the tests. The blood samples (Four large vials worth) say alot!
As for the comment about Ms. Louise Philips, I could not agree more. What a PRO.
Should get my results this week for a July 12 start date. Yes they are looking for 8 drivers for this course and 8 more for a fall course.
Get your CV's in. The worst that could happen is that they find some curable disease before it kills you!!
Regards to all
As for the medical, that's another story!!
One full day of medical tests and then the mental quizzzzzzzz...... close to five hundred questions in as fast as you can do them! I would not say that the medical is that difficult because you can not control or prepare for the tests. The blood samples (Four large vials worth) say alot!
As for the comment about Ms. Louise Philips, I could not agree more. What a PRO.
Should get my results this week for a July 12 start date. Yes they are looking for 8 drivers for this course and 8 more for a fall course.
Get your CV's in. The worst that could happen is that they find some curable disease before it kills you!!
Regards to all
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Ms. Louise Philips?
Would that be the daughter of the previous IASCO Philips? (Probably retired now)
Or his son's wife?
The son was being groomed to take over the rudder 10 years ago. (Forgot the father's and son's first name.)
The old man was nice enough back then, but it turned out to be only on the surface.
As long as they get half your paycheck, IASCO is indeed your friend.
They sure know how to bow to the Japs, but will forget your contract very soon if any problem or conflict arises.
On a different note: Any boys out there on PPRuNE from my JAL class September 91?
(Only one guy extended his contract, the rest
of us left voluntarily or got dismissed, but we all passed the Tokyo program: What a waste of hard work for us and money for JAL)
My e-mail address: [email protected]
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Men, this is no drill...
Would that be the daughter of the previous IASCO Philips? (Probably retired now)
Or his son's wife?
The son was being groomed to take over the rudder 10 years ago. (Forgot the father's and son's first name.)
The old man was nice enough back then, but it turned out to be only on the surface.
As long as they get half your paycheck, IASCO is indeed your friend.
They sure know how to bow to the Japs, but will forget your contract very soon if any problem or conflict arises.
On a different note: Any boys out there on PPRuNE from my JAL class September 91?
(Only one guy extended his contract, the rest
of us left voluntarily or got dismissed, but we all passed the Tokyo program: What a waste of hard work for us and money for JAL)
My e-mail address: [email protected]
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Men, this is no drill...
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Catch 22:
Greetings Mate:
If ya were JAS August 91, we probably had a few beers in the Shin Takanawa Prince Hotel:
I was the ex-Evergreen, tall handsome dude with the Harley...
Give me a shout on e-mail [email protected]
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Men, this is no drill...
Greetings Mate:
If ya were JAS August 91, we probably had a few beers in the Shin Takanawa Prince Hotel:
I was the ex-Evergreen, tall handsome dude with the Harley...
Give me a shout on e-mail [email protected]
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Men, this is no drill...
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Since a guy plunge a DC-8 into Tokyo bay long time ago, JAL imposed a psychiatric test for the new pilots, both Japanese and expats. Does anyone know how deep they go into your brain? What are the test consisted of?