Comair Pilots and Company have another TA?
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Brad,
You have the right to hold an opinion, you have the right to vote how you wish. As long as you pay your assesment when we all vote to support a pilot group, I can't really complain. I apologise for the "potential scab" comment, it was uncalled for and I am very sorry I wote it.
An army of one is exactly what a union isn't. We don't need devils advocates, we need unity, because I promise you that the managment is unified. And it's unified against us. By 50,000 pilots supporting 1500 we make it very expensive for managment to take us lightly. Paying gladly for three months isn't good enough to get the attention of the Delta board of directors, paying for as long as it takes is the only course of action for a union that means business.
My wife makes about $20,000 a month and pays an assesment less then $100 a month! You have to understand how complaining about that level of support makes you look. You have to understand what management sees when pilots aren't willing to kick in 0.5% of their salary to help defeat a company in an effort to lower all pilot salaries. I don't know where you work, but it's a real deal that your job can be sourced to an RJ for about 50% of what a major airline would pay to move the people. And it cost my wife less then $100 a month to fight it, it cost me less then $50 a month!
Do you understand how ungracious you sound when you complain about giving up pocket change to help a fellow pilot & union member fight a fight that concerns us all? A few hundred of your type make the job of getting this industry back on the pay track for all of us so much more difficult. In fact, if you'll change your vote my wife and I will pay your share of the assesment. You have my email address.
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You have the right to hold an opinion, you have the right to vote how you wish. As long as you pay your assesment when we all vote to support a pilot group, I can't really complain. I apologise for the "potential scab" comment, it was uncalled for and I am very sorry I wote it.
An army of one is exactly what a union isn't. We don't need devils advocates, we need unity, because I promise you that the managment is unified. And it's unified against us. By 50,000 pilots supporting 1500 we make it very expensive for managment to take us lightly. Paying gladly for three months isn't good enough to get the attention of the Delta board of directors, paying for as long as it takes is the only course of action for a union that means business.
My wife makes about $20,000 a month and pays an assesment less then $100 a month! You have to understand how complaining about that level of support makes you look. You have to understand what management sees when pilots aren't willing to kick in 0.5% of their salary to help defeat a company in an effort to lower all pilot salaries. I don't know where you work, but it's a real deal that your job can be sourced to an RJ for about 50% of what a major airline would pay to move the people. And it cost my wife less then $100 a month to fight it, it cost me less then $50 a month!
Do you understand how ungracious you sound when you complain about giving up pocket change to help a fellow pilot & union member fight a fight that concerns us all? A few hundred of your type make the job of getting this industry back on the pay track for all of us so much more difficult. In fact, if you'll change your vote my wife and I will pay your share of the assesment. You have my email address.
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Brad and Airbubba work for DAL. They don't understand the fact that Comair pilots are incredibly profitable (due to subpar pay, etc.) which pays for mainline's new contract. They deserve at least minimum wage for that effort. Cut these Comair folk some slack and give them the support they deserve.. they're on your team. Duh.
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>>They deserve at least minimum wage for that effort.<<
Amen! I think they got that and more in the TA. Time to go back to work and pay dues like the rest of us.
Amen! I think they got that and more in the TA. Time to go back to work and pay dues like the rest of us.
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Ex, I accept your appology. I excercised my vote but will, of course, continue the assessment if that's the will of the majority. I come from a commuter background myself and support the Comair pilots demands(most of them anyway). I think their leadership is leading them down a destructive path, though, if they vote this TA down. I then fear for the future of Comair itself in that event. That I can not condone. As to my "ungracious" tag, for that it is my turn to appologize. I used the assessment as a metaphor for my support. I did not intend to complain about the actual assessment figure. I look forward to conversing with you in the future.
3green, you continue to amuse me. Thank you.
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3green, you continue to amuse me. Thank you.
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Brad,
What are you talking about with "I think their leadership is leading them down a destructive path, though, if they vote this TA down"? The Comair MEC recommended APPROVAL of this agreement! If they had voted it down it wouldn't have been due to their leadership, it would have been due to their rank and file.
What are you talking about with "I think their leadership is leading them down a destructive path, though, if they vote this TA down"? The Comair MEC recommended APPROVAL of this agreement! If they had voted it down it wouldn't have been due to their leadership, it would have been due to their rank and file.
