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Old 25th Jan 2006, 15:32
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Cargolux nose gear collapse in Shanghai.

The nose gear of TCV collapsed on the ramp as maintenace where working on the gear, no injuries but a bit of damage one would think, any news or pictures?
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Here you go

http://www.campus-site.nl/cargolux/

Let's hope they remember to remove the tailstand before they restore it to the level position.
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someone forgot to put the lockpins in by any chance?
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Certainly makes boarding somewhat easier...

But how can you mix up an Antonov with a 747?
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Cargolux front gear collapse?

Does anyone know what happened to this aircraft? why did the nosewheel gear collapse? Airliners.net doesn't give a good explenation... =(


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Old 26th Jan 2006, 14:10
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After towing, they tried to close the nose landing gear doors without gear pin in place. Don't know the exact procedure for closing the doors, I guess a bit of hydraulic pressure and ooops...
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Yep, deja vu all over again...

http://aviation-safety.net/photos/di...0&vnr=2&kind=I
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yes you need hyd pressure to close the doors but don't you don't need anypins in the gear----------

unless one puts the gear lever in the up position
then it does what says on the tin
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There is a handle in the gear well to open/close the NLG doors if someone was operating this handle then they would be dead.From the pics it would appear the NLG retracted as it should with the doors opening as They should but contacting the ground,as a B747 engineer for many years I can assume one of 2 things occured either an accidental operation of the gear lever(unlikely as it has to be pulled out and raised)or more likely a problem with the gear handle module in that it was electrically disconnected and removed from the panel this operation release the down lock bungee and allows the gear to retract under the weight of the aircraft.
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yes the maint handle for the ng doors in just outside the door hinge line (400)
classic is inside but they still be a lot shorter than before.
my guess is someone tryied to cycle the door using the gr lever-
all very well if ALL the pins are in.
also on a 400 no bungee cable-thinks that is only on the classic
but still pins in and CBs pulled etc
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Originally Posted by nitro rig driver
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yes the maint handle for the ng doors in just outside the door hinge line (400)
classic is inside but they still be a lot shorter than before.
my guess is someone tryied to cycle the door using the gr lever-
all very well if ALL the pins are in.
also on a 400 no bungee cable-thinks that is only on the classic
but still pins in and CBs pulled etc
Nitro as You can probably understand all My time is on the classics(and -300s)sorry if any mistake in My post.
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Old 27th Jan 2006, 11:28
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Its all the rage..........

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/592651/M/
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Wish I could dig up a shot of that forlorn-looking Ansett 747 sitting on 16R at YSSY when its NG failed to extend...

But wait!! I did: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/021003/M/
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Old 28th Jan 2006, 17:33
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Talk about a negative learning curve..
 
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Just spoke with a mechanic in PVG who watched it happen.

He said the ground engineer was removing some box from under the panel and the box snagged on the gear lever when he pulled it out. Apparently the mains were pinned but the nosegear was not.
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Old 29th Jan 2006, 11:50
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Assuming he was removing the F/Os FMC. I'm not sure how he could 'snag' the gear lever, it has to be pulled out (extended) over an inch prior to lifting out of the 'DN' detent, plus you will have to press the LOCK OVRD button with your other hand to get beyond the 'OFF' position to 'UP'.

So there must be a little more to the story.
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>>Assuming he was removing the F/Os FMC.

Uh, I don't know much about maintenance, but isn't that a CDU, not an FMC?
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CDU removal

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Airbubba is correct, it is a CDU, but often referred to as the FMC.

To remove the right CDU, it is necessary to raise the gear handle. Hence the warning in the Maintenance Manual to install all the gear pins prior to commencing a CDU. It is in fact repeated if it is the right CDU to be removed.

If this is the cause, it is not the first time nor I suspect the last. Heat of the moment, etc., I remember a couple of instances on DC-8s where promising careers came to abrupt ends due to the same reason except they were Carousels or similar in those days.

Just be thankful nobody was squashed.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 10:00
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If Airbubba is right, this could've been lots nastier - all cycling up and the whole thing settling on its engines. Ouch.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 11:36
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oh... they tune 747's suspension into a more sporty look now do they?
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