AAIB Report into 3-Engined 747 over London
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Re: AAIB Report into 3-Engined 747 over London
I just missed the landing by a matter of seconds, saw it turn off the runway and taxi in though whilst wondering what it was doing in LHR. From the guys I spoke to who did see it, they said it was one of those that makes you stop what your doing and look.
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Can I ask a simple question?
Where on earth is "Wright Field, New York State"?
Tried to find it on the Internet and the place doesn't seem to exist.
Where on earth is "Wright Field, New York State"?
Tried to find it on the Internet and the place doesn't seem to exist.
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Re: AAIB Report into 3-Engined 747 over London
Good question, wikipedia sends http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Field to Wright Patterson AFB, but that's in Ohio
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Note also that the BBC article now has a date of the incident on it.
Maybe they read here?
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Maybe they read here?
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Originally Posted by ALLDAYDELI
WRI Wrightstown McGuire New Jersey USA
There's also a Caldwell-Wright Airport in New Jersey - but neither of these is New York State, as clearly mentioned by AAIB. I also heard the original Evergreen statement said the 747 was going to JFK. Anyone clear this up?
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I notice the comments about "how would it look if the aircraft was diverted by ATC and then fell short of the alternate airfield "
Well gliding through a block of flats and public buildings in London would not exactly be good press !
Well gliding through a block of flats and public buildings in London would not exactly be good press !
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Exactly, even more when
...and because of the military nature it may never be known...El Al and Schiphol 1992 was not so good press
The airline was conducting flights in support of the US military and it was not known if there were Dangerous Goods onboard.
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I notice the comments about "how would it look if the aircraft was diverted by ATC and then fell short of the alternate airfield "
Well gliding through a block of flats and public buildings in London would not exactly be good press !
Well gliding through a block of flats and public buildings in London would not exactly be good press !
There is practically no guidance available to ATCOs with which to make that judgement call yet should it end badly there will be many experts who, with the benefit of hindsight and time, can make a very convincing case that our decision was the wrong one.
Under these circumstances it would take a very brave ATCO indeed to question a commanders plan of action when controlling an emergency aircraft.
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Well indeed - that's the question: if there were dangerous goods, then what would have happened? If there were more power problems then what would have happened? We could keep going on this track ... however decisions were made, which in the end created a happy ending.
The issue of the pilots not having any airfield maps etc with them is possibly more pertient IMHO (as a SLF).
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The issue of the pilots not having any airfield maps etc with them is possibly more pertient IMHO (as a SLF).
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Well gliding through a block of flats and public buildings in London would not exactly be good press
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Originally Posted by stormin norman
Sounds like an ice problem.The question i would ask was why the aircraft not impounded by the CAA ?.
Care to elaborate on why you feel it was ice?
I'm not aware of any other similar incidents associated with ice.
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Originally Posted by stormin norman
The question i would ask was why the aircraft not impounded by the CAA ?.
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Re: AAIB Report into 3-Engined 747 over London
Sounds like an ice problem.
Except that the AAIB doesn't think so:
"One possibility is, of course, atmospheric conditions such as icing but a weather aftercast suggested that the aircraft was flying in conditions that were not conducive to this phenomenon."