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See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4368516.stm for more early details.
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CNN is reporting it is a Belleview Airlines jet. Very little additional information at this time ("...the control tower lost sight of the plane about three minutes after takeoff, authorities said").
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A bit more from various sources (keep an eye on google news page):
Aircraft type: 737
From: Murtala Muhammed airport, Lagos, Nigeria
To: Abuja, Nigeria
People: 108 passenger and six crew
Additional quotes:
"A storm was passing through Lagos about the time the flight left, according to CNN's Jeff Koinange." (CNN)
"Pilots issued a distress call before the plane disappeared from radar about 15 miles west of Lagos over the Atlantic Ocean, state television reported." (ABC News)
Aircraft type: 737
From: Murtala Muhammed airport, Lagos, Nigeria
To: Abuja, Nigeria
People: 108 passenger and six crew
Additional quotes:
"A storm was passing through Lagos about the time the flight left, according to CNN's Jeff Koinange." (CNN)
"Pilots issued a distress call before the plane disappeared from radar about 15 miles west of Lagos over the Atlantic Ocean, state television reported." (ABC News)
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Listening to CNN's "former pilot and aviation expert" had me wanting to throw my weeties bowl through the television screen. The guy was fixated on the crash simply having to be caused by the crew flying into a thunderstorm.
Maybe, after thorough investigation, we'll find he was right, but there's no way anyone could - or should - be saying what this person was saying so early after the event.
Chicken Noodle News' need to fill the void with words as soon as possible after any such event does no one any favours.
Maybe, after thorough investigation, we'll find he was right, but there's no way anyone could - or should - be saying what this person was saying so early after the event.
Chicken Noodle News' need to fill the void with words as soon as possible after any such event does no one any favours.
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Nigeria accident
Yes, and the "Asphyxiated Press" as well as "Loiters" speaks of a possible terrorist act just to cause unrest within the community. And of course the Countermine Controlled Network is not shy of any statements concerning this mishap appearing with an expert on the air. 
Won't hold me back to go to Nigeria just in a few weeks.
Won't hold me back to go to Nigeria just in a few weeks.
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CNN repeatedly shows a photo of a 737NG, however my research on the Internet wouuld appear to indicate that Bellview operated 73-200's.
Anyone care to enlighten us which model is the type that has gone down, please?
What nationality are the tech crews employed by Bellview?
Thanks in advance.
K.M.
Anyone care to enlighten us which model is the type that has gone down, please?
What nationality are the tech crews employed by Bellview?
Thanks in advance.
K.M.
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Bellview don't seem to have much in the way of a web site but from Wikipedia it suggests:
Bellview Airlines (Nigeria)
Bellview Airlines is an airline based in Lagos, Nigeria. It was established and started operations in 1992, is privately owned and operates scheduled domestic and international charter flights from Lagos.
Code Data
Bellview Airlines operates the following services (at January 2005):
Fleet
The Bellview Airlines fleet consists of the following aircraft (at January 2005):
Bellview Airlines is an airline based in Lagos, Nigeria. It was established and started operations in 1992, is privately owned and operates scheduled domestic and international charter flights from Lagos.
Code Data
- IATA Code: B3
- ICAO Code: BLV
- Callsign: Bellview Airlines
Bellview Airlines operates the following services (at January 2005):
- Domestic scheduled destinations: Abuja, Kano, Lagos and Port Harcourt.
- International scheduled destinations: Abidjan, Accra, Banjul, Conakry, Dakar, Douala, Freetown, Libreville, London, Monrovia and Mumbai.
Fleet
The Bellview Airlines fleet consists of the following aircraft (at January 2005):
- 5 Boeing 737-200 (Ed: err, that should probably now read as 4)
- 2 Boeing 767-200
- 2 Douglas DC-9-30
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CNN:-
located the downed jet in Oyo State, at a site 200 kilometers (120 miles) north of the city of Lagos,
The pilot issued a distress call just before the control tower lost sight of the plane about three minutes after takeoff,
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Earlier reports that a/c t/o from Lagos over the sea and then turn in-land. 120 mile NORTH seems a helluva way in three minutes . . . What happened AFTER the distress call?
BBC:-
Planes flying from Nigeria's biggest city, Lagos, to the capital, Abuja, normally take off over the sea and then circle back inland for the 50-minute flight to Abuja.
located the downed jet in Oyo State, at a site 200 kilometers (120 miles) north of the city of Lagos,
The pilot issued a distress call just before the control tower lost sight of the plane about three minutes after takeoff,
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Earlier reports that a/c t/o from Lagos over the sea and then turn in-land. 120 mile NORTH seems a helluva way in three minutes . . . What happened AFTER the distress call?
BBC:-
Planes flying from Nigeria's biggest city, Lagos, to the capital, Abuja, normally take off over the sea and then circle back inland for the 50-minute flight to Abuja.
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120 mile NORTH seems a helluva way in three minutes .
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BBC:-
Nigeria has one of the world's worst air safety records, having been the scene of several crashes and near-misses.
An Air France plane was badly damaged after striking a herd of cows while trying to land in the oil city of Port Harcourt last month.
Nigeria has one of the world's worst air safety records, having been the scene of several crashes and near-misses.
An Air France plane was badly damaged after striking a herd of cows while trying to land in the oil city of Port Harcourt last month.
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True, Nigeria is not top of the world when it comes down to there safety record. However bellview did not have a bad record and was certainly not te worst company out there.
There are also a couple of european bases operators doing domestic routes for expats which if they would have an accident would probably be thrown in there with the lot, but it seems a bit to simple to me to say that just because it is nigeria it must be one of those bad airlines. Letīs see what comes out of investigation first, shall we?
There are also a couple of european bases operators doing domestic routes for expats which if they would have an accident would probably be thrown in there with the lot, but it seems a bit to simple to me to say that just because it is nigeria it must be one of those bad airlines. Letīs see what comes out of investigation first, shall we?
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>>Previously they had operated an Airbus A300, but this was disposed of in August 2003
Also, a few years ago they provided crews to operate a couple of Air India A-310's on a contract. Most of the pilots were Canadian and Ozzies with at least one Kiwi thrown in for good measure.
Also, a few years ago they provided crews to operate a couple of Air India A-310's on a contract. Most of the pilots were Canadian and Ozzies with at least one Kiwi thrown in for good measure.
120 mile NORTH seems a helluva way in three minutes .
"The pilot issued a distress call just before the control tower lost sight of the plane about three minutes after takeoff...
And subsequently...
"...search teams located the downed jet in Oyo state, at a site 200 kilometers (120 miles) north of Lagos."
So it's not that they travelled 120 miles north in 3 minutes - but that they apparently travelled 120 miles north after issuing a distress call.