LBA bound Astraeus 737 diverts with 'pressurisation' problem
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Not being a 'techie' in these matters, but am I making the wrong connections here. Helios, Aestraeus both using 733's both experiencing depressurisation problems, am i being paranoid here or could there be a malfunction, deterioration in a piece of equipment that is leading to this dangerous safety probelm.
Hope there is not a third, that would be disturbing and could send catastophic shock waves throughout the industry. How many 733's are in service!!!...!!!
I am sure it is nothing but...
Hope there is not a third, that would be disturbing and could send catastophic shock waves throughout the industry. How many 733's are in service!!!...!!!
I am sure it is nothing but...
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Great job, Centaurus! Just stow those *** masks next time.
7006 - I have every reason to believe it was a complete coincidence. Cabin pressure failures/'glitches' are not THAT uncommon, but right now they are headlnes. An 'abnormal' situation well-handled by a good crew.
7006 - I have every reason to believe it was a complete coincidence. Cabin pressure failures/'glitches' are not THAT uncommon, but right now they are headlnes. An 'abnormal' situation well-handled by a good crew.
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am i being paranoid here or could there be a malfunction, deterioration in a piece of equipment that is leading to this dangerous safety probelm.
We don't know what the events that led up to the Helios crash really are. We are all assuming that it was a pressurisation problem, amongst other things. In the Astraeus incident we know that the crew followed the expected procedure and handled the problem as is expected.
How many times do we have to have anoraks coming on here with their 'conspiracy' theories or speculation that there is some 'common' fault here? The Astraeus incident wouldn't have even made the news if it hadn't been for the Helios crash. Give it a rest.
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Lets get some perspective back into this thread and avoid the hyperbole.
1. CAA statistics show 167 pressurisation related diversions into UK airports in the last 10 years, about one every 23 days on average.
2. While many may have been only minor and/or precautionary, in each event the crews reached terra firma in one piece and executed both their responsibilities and training competently.
3. The possibility of experiencing some form of pressurisation event is fully and properly recognised by all the major aviation authorities as evidenced in the initial and recurrent training/testing of crews in this area.
4. Structural failure causing sudden depressurisation and further structural / control damage is thankfully a rare event. The complex and challenging complications caused thus can only be partially trained for, and therefore often means crews making fundamental decisons with incomplete information.
Therefore let's freely recognise crew competency in (3) and keep hero comments for (4).
1. CAA statistics show 167 pressurisation related diversions into UK airports in the last 10 years, about one every 23 days on average.
2. While many may have been only minor and/or precautionary, in each event the crews reached terra firma in one piece and executed both their responsibilities and training competently.
3. The possibility of experiencing some form of pressurisation event is fully and properly recognised by all the major aviation authorities as evidenced in the initial and recurrent training/testing of crews in this area.
4. Structural failure causing sudden depressurisation and further structural / control damage is thankfully a rare event. The complex and challenging complications caused thus can only be partially trained for, and therefore often means crews making fundamental decisons with incomplete information.
Therefore let's freely recognise crew competency in (3) and keep hero comments for (4).
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1. CAA statistics show 167 pressurisation related diversions into UK airports in the last 10 years, about one every 23 days on average.
Not being a 'techie' in these matters, but am I making the wrong connections here.
Also keep in mind that the media likes to keep a story going. Invariably, a something big happens with lots of coverage, but eventually the news and urgency thereof wanes as the "boring" investigation progresses. Should something else occur, it's appears quite common to attempt to link the newer (usually minor) event with the more severe older event, irrespective of whether the same type aircraft and/or airline is involved.
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Pilots act in a professional manner nearly all of the time, thank goodness. So do the other aviation professionals who keep aviation at the top of the table for industrial safety consciousness. [Aside from being tongue-in-the-cheek provocative now and then when off duty of course] The few exceptions to this rule are mercilessly weeded out very quickly.
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NOW what we pros and TPs want to know asap is the sequence of events and what went wrong so that you may be better able to handle a similar situation if it occurs tomorrow.
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LBA 737 diverts.
Hey..quit the sqabbling....have you guys noticed that whjen ever there is a major air mishaps,and incident similar will occur ?.. Air incidents comes in two`s within a specified window of time,time being a window of 5-10 weeks or am I just bloody superstitious or worse,getting old ? Hmmmmmmm .....????
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Sorry if I upset anyone, it was not meant antagonistically, hence the 'sort of, maybe...if' way it was written.
I am glad that someone has put the incident in perspective concerning the number of depressurisations each year, most of which were 'routine' and none/hardly any get reported to the wider public, same as near-misses and so forth. Only catastrophies are newsworthy, a sad reflection on society. My heart and prayers go out to all families who have suffered loss in the Helios incident, and pray an answer to the incident is soon forthcoming.
I am glad that someone has put the incident in perspective concerning the number of depressurisations each year, most of which were 'routine' and none/hardly any get reported to the wider public, same as near-misses and so forth. Only catastrophies are newsworthy, a sad reflection on society. My heart and prayers go out to all families who have suffered loss in the Helios incident, and pray an answer to the incident is soon forthcoming.
