AF excursion in Mexico's Intl. Airport
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The thing Ignition is that those dumb bells who started this thread are not in the least interested in what happened, it's to whom it happened that matters. Follow moi ?
I've seen this sooooooooooooooooo many times on Prune and that scares me s....t to think that some one the authors of the above posts might actually be at the helm when I go on my holiday and that is not a happy prospect.I should be happy as a clam relaxing sipping my bloody Mary, but no ! those idots have to rock my peace of mind.
I have seen very few thread started in good faith to exchange facts. We either get the trailor park bunch with their " light " touch or clowns like the Guv reinventing capitalism, or funeral directors hovering around the site flooding us with condoleances when they don't even grip the meaning of the word. That leaves very little room for fair exchanges.
I've seen this sooooooooooooooooo many times on Prune and that scares me s....t to think that some one the authors of the above posts might actually be at the helm when I go on my holiday and that is not a happy prospect.I should be happy as a clam relaxing sipping my bloody Mary, but no ! those idots have to rock my peace of mind.
I have seen very few thread started in good faith to exchange facts. We either get the trailor park bunch with their " light " touch or clowns like the Guv reinventing capitalism, or funeral directors hovering around the site flooding us with condoleances when they don't even grip the meaning of the word. That leaves very little room for fair exchanges.
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Oh dear Wallabie, the topic drifted off course when people started whining about trashing the French so hence my reply. See also Airbubba´s, Xenia´s, Boeingboy1´s, and Sick´s replies.
The English was ´plain enough´ for me and clearly reflects you IQ. Thanks for making such a fool of yourself !
First of all accusing somebody of xenophobia who is pleading for ONE common language in aviation (i.e. English !) and thereby substituting his/her own native language, obviously contradicts itself and clearly underlines YOUR stupidity !
Second, with the SAS accident and Linate and now the AF incursion in MEX in mind, maybe it´s time for you to wake up and (try) to see the big picture. Maybe, just maybe there is a common aspect in these accidents/incidents n.l. COMMUNICATION ! It´s something that affects us all over the world, from Basel to Milano to Mexico… With people yepping away in their native language on the ATC frequencies, dangerous situations can occur and subsequently crews and controllers are not trained and proficient in using English.
Third, Let me quote you for a moment: “To judge people because they belong to one culture or another has been tried many many times in history and despots have never been short of ignorant idiots like you, walking in brown shirts to do their dirty jobs.”
My point exactly, therefore these pilots should stop all this national pride nonsence and learn a foreign language like English ! Only fools like yourself cling onto things like national culture and pride and are even willing to sacrifice safety for that.
Are you wearing a brown shirt on your off days ?
Don´t get me wrong, there is nothing with a diverse culture, but in a professional environment you have to be able to put cultural differences aside and get the job done safely and efficiently.
Fourth, please do not compare the ATC of LAX with CDG ! It´s like comparing apples and oranges. The average US controller, on any given day, can handle more traffic and do so more safely then the French can handle in a week ! If you would place a French controller in the tower in LAX he/she would first of all not understand everything, second he/she would panic and third he/she would strike !
Maybe with your ´plain enough English´ and you username Wallabie, you should consider rounding up cattle in Australia. That way you only have to speak ´plain enough English´ and you stay out of harm´s way.
BTW, it´s a Saab 2000, don´t forget the extra zero !
Ignition Override, I agree with your comments about learning a few words of French/Italian/ Spanish, and I have learned some phrases to aid my situational awareness.
However, wouldn´t be a lot easier if we could all agree to learn a few words of English...
[ 22 October 2001: Message edited by: Saab 2000 Driver ]
The English was ´plain enough´ for me and clearly reflects you IQ. Thanks for making such a fool of yourself !
First of all accusing somebody of xenophobia who is pleading for ONE common language in aviation (i.e. English !) and thereby substituting his/her own native language, obviously contradicts itself and clearly underlines YOUR stupidity !
Second, with the SAS accident and Linate and now the AF incursion in MEX in mind, maybe it´s time for you to wake up and (try) to see the big picture. Maybe, just maybe there is a common aspect in these accidents/incidents n.l. COMMUNICATION ! It´s something that affects us all over the world, from Basel to Milano to Mexico… With people yepping away in their native language on the ATC frequencies, dangerous situations can occur and subsequently crews and controllers are not trained and proficient in using English.
Third, Let me quote you for a moment: “To judge people because they belong to one culture or another has been tried many many times in history and despots have never been short of ignorant idiots like you, walking in brown shirts to do their dirty jobs.”
My point exactly, therefore these pilots should stop all this national pride nonsence and learn a foreign language like English ! Only fools like yourself cling onto things like national culture and pride and are even willing to sacrifice safety for that.
Are you wearing a brown shirt on your off days ?
Don´t get me wrong, there is nothing with a diverse culture, but in a professional environment you have to be able to put cultural differences aside and get the job done safely and efficiently.
Fourth, please do not compare the ATC of LAX with CDG ! It´s like comparing apples and oranges. The average US controller, on any given day, can handle more traffic and do so more safely then the French can handle in a week ! If you would place a French controller in the tower in LAX he/she would first of all not understand everything, second he/she would panic and third he/she would strike !
Maybe with your ´plain enough English´ and you username Wallabie, you should consider rounding up cattle in Australia. That way you only have to speak ´plain enough English´ and you stay out of harm´s way.
BTW, it´s a Saab 2000, don´t forget the extra zero !
Ignition Override, I agree with your comments about learning a few words of French/Italian/ Spanish, and I have learned some phrases to aid my situational awareness.
However, wouldn´t be a lot easier if we could all agree to learn a few words of English...
[ 22 October 2001: Message edited by: Saab 2000 Driver ]
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Well walabie I think you must have an A+ in CRM.
The way you communicate and get your point across in such a calm, gentle, diplomatic, yet firm way. Oh yes, and the way you can handle critisism. My God, I am jealous !
I´m sure the rest of the crew is ´thrilled´ to fly with you on any given day.
The way you communicate and get your point across in such a calm, gentle, diplomatic, yet firm way. Oh yes, and the way you can handle critisism. My God, I am jealous !
I´m sure the rest of the crew is ´thrilled´ to fly with you on any given day.
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" Second, with the SAS accident and Linate and now the AF incursion in MEX in mind, maybe it´s time for you to wake up and (try) to see the big picture. "
Saab, you're a tart. The Cessna in Linate was german, and speaking english. Don't think language was the issue on that one,nor was it in Mexico but hey, you're the appointed expert !!
2000 ??? You mean that ridiculous flying saucer that's always on my way when on climb ??? Got you !!! And please do accept my apology. 2000 it will be as from now !!!
Rounding up cattle ??? Boy !! you're amazing !! Do you do palm reading ?? Cause this is exactly what I'm about to do when I'm finished with you as I'm on vacation.
A + on CRM ??? Nice to be recognized in one' s lifetime. This is exactly what my crews tell me, so you see, we do agree on something !!
Saab, you sound as much fun as a UBS chairman who just had root canal work and my SR colleagues are sure going to have the time of their life working with you.
Saab, you're a tart. The Cessna in Linate was german, and speaking english. Don't think language was the issue on that one,nor was it in Mexico but hey, you're the appointed expert !!
2000 ??? You mean that ridiculous flying saucer that's always on my way when on climb ??? Got you !!! And please do accept my apology. 2000 it will be as from now !!!
Rounding up cattle ??? Boy !! you're amazing !! Do you do palm reading ?? Cause this is exactly what I'm about to do when I'm finished with you as I'm on vacation.
A + on CRM ??? Nice to be recognized in one' s lifetime. This is exactly what my crews tell me, so you see, we do agree on something !!
Saab, you sound as much fun as a UBS chairman who just had root canal work and my SR colleagues are sure going to have the time of their life working with you.
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Hi wallabie,
Have you ever tried to count to 10 in order to control your aggression ? How did you ever pass a psychological airline test ?
I´m not even going to bother with replying to your insults.
If you can´t exchange opinions like an adult, or if you can´t accept the fact that someone else has another opinion, then perhaps you should stop logging in to PPRuNe.
Goodbye and have a nice life !
Have you ever tried to count to 10 in order to control your aggression ? How did you ever pass a psychological airline test ?
I´m not even going to bother with replying to your insults.
If you can´t exchange opinions like an adult, or if you can´t accept the fact that someone else has another opinion, then perhaps you should stop logging in to PPRuNe.
Goodbye and have a nice life !
