Southend 707 drug bust
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but OBL is not stupid. Mad, bonkers, disturbed even, but not stupid.
Why on earth would he want to kill the druggies, they are one of his main sources of income.
No druggies = no drug trade = no money!!
However, as part of the war on terrorism, why don't the western governments carry out a cull
No druggies = no drug trade = no money = no rich terrorists!!
Why on earth would he want to kill the druggies, they are one of his main sources of income.
No druggies = no drug trade = no money!!
However, as part of the war on terrorism, why don't the western governments carry out a cull
No druggies = no drug trade = no money = no rich terrorists!!
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Be interested to see if they auction the 707... usual fate of vehicles involved in the 'trade' I believe... wonder what the description would read... 'one careful owner... several reckless ones'?
On the sub judice thing, I think it's a bit of a grey area on the net... I've been able to read detailed pre-charge reporting on the BBC website in several cases, and it doesn't magically diasappear after charges are laid or the trial starts! It may not be in order to post a direct link, but what about instructions to visit such and such a search engine and search on '****** ****** *****'?
On the sub judice thing, I think it's a bit of a grey area on the net... I've been able to read detailed pre-charge reporting on the BBC website in several cases, and it doesn't magically diasappear after charges are laid or the trial starts! It may not be in order to post a direct link, but what about instructions to visit such and such a search engine and search on '****** ****** *****'?
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I think that for all practical purposes the internet trancends sub-judice. not quite sure what the law can do about it.
I dont want to get captian pprune into trouble but someone here has already been very silly indeed
I dont want to get captian pprune into trouble but someone here has already been very silly indeed
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Exactly. Bin Laden and pals are dead keen to keep the drug trade going because it's their only major source of income, and they see it as a poison that weakens the West and thus part of the jihad. The last thing they'd do would be to kill off all the punters. A rumour that all smack is contaminated with anthrax would probably be the work of western agencies, much as the 'acid has strychnine in' rumour probably was.
Incidentally, the thinking is that the Taliban are releasing vast amounts of stockpiled opium which they've kept back from a few recent bumper crops. There'll be a lot more smuggling going on, so that's something else for people to keep an extra sense of awareness about.
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Exactly. Bin Laden and pals are dead keen to keep the drug trade going because it's their only major source of income, and they see it as a poison that weakens the West and thus part of the jihad. The last thing they'd do would be to kill off all the punters. A rumour that all smack is contaminated with anthrax would probably be the work of western agencies, much as the 'acid has strychnine in' rumour probably was.
Incidentally, the thinking is that the Taliban are releasing vast amounts of stockpiled opium which they've kept back from a few recent bumper crops. There'll be a lot more smuggling going on, so that's something else for people to keep an extra sense of awareness about.
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Legs & SLF, you haven't figured the above have you ? as in, it's meant to be a ruse, i.e. I was just trying to see how long it'd take to make the press - as in, it was made up !
Also, and fyi, I've known a few serious druggies and as far as I can tell, if needs must (and it usually does) they'd still wack it into themselves, Anthrax laden or not.
Also, and fyi, I've known a few serious druggies and as far as I can tell, if needs must (and it usually does) they'd still wack it into themselves, Anthrax laden or not.
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Well if *** did tip off C+E for 10% off the haul, I hope he knows a good plastic surgeon, cos the boys from Essex will no doubt want to feed him to the fishes in the Thames Estuary
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I dread to think how many tons of dope each year trundle along the byways of Essex after being landed by aircraft, boats, cars and trucks.
For as long as I have lived in the county there have been regular big busts which have made national newspaper headlines. But how many drug runs are going undetected?
Only this morning a friend of mine, who is involved in GA, described how a light single had flown low (under 1,000ft) and fastish from east to west over his home in West Essex at 0405, orbited somewhere between two well-known airfields (both closed at the time) and returned heading east at about 0407.
He can't think of any good reason for a light aircraft to fly that sort of pattern, during foul weather conditions and so early on a Sunday morning.
There many be an innocent explanation, but it certainly makes you wonder what was going on.
[ 21 October 2001: Message edited by: Stan Sted ]
For as long as I have lived in the county there have been regular big busts which have made national newspaper headlines. But how many drug runs are going undetected?
Only this morning a friend of mine, who is involved in GA, described how a light single had flown low (under 1,000ft) and fastish from east to west over his home in West Essex at 0405, orbited somewhere between two well-known airfields (both closed at the time) and returned heading east at about 0407.
He can't think of any good reason for a light aircraft to fly that sort of pattern, during foul weather conditions and so early on a Sunday morning.
There many be an innocent explanation, but it certainly makes you wonder what was going on.
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I have long held that anyone involved in trafficking hard drugs should be handed over to the Saudis, Thais, Malaysians or Singaporeans.
Until such time that the risks outweigh the rewards, we'll continue to be inundated with this filth - for which people will be mugged, have their houses burgled and cars stolen top pay for the habits of the addicts.
Until such time that the risks outweigh the rewards, we'll continue to be inundated with this filth - for which people will be mugged, have their houses burgled and cars stolen top pay for the habits of the addicts.
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Well as one of the accredited **-* hate squad I hope he 'aint going to get way with it this time...
BossRaptor, please read the post below before you make any more posts on this subject. Any more posts that even approach breaching the rules below will give me no option but to clode this thread.
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BossRaptor, please read the post below before you make any more posts on this subject. Any more posts that even approach breaching the rules below will give me no option but to clode this thread.
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Capt PPRuNe,
The issue is covered by the Contempt of Court Act 1981 which provides:
1. In this Act "the strict liability rule" means the rule of law whereby conduct may be treated as a contempt of court as tending to interfere with the course of justice in particular legal proceedings regardless of intent to do so.
2.(1) The strict liability rule applies only in relation to publications, and for this purpose "publication" includes any speech, writing, programme included in a programme service or other communication in whatever form, which is addressed to the public at large or any section of the public.
(2) The strict liability rule applies only to a publication which creates a substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced.
(3) The strict liability rule applies to a publication only if the proceedings in question are active within the meaning of this section at the time of the publication.
Schedule 1 to the Act provides that proceedings are active following certain specified initial steps, one of which is arrest without warrant.
The risk that has to be assessed is the that which was created by the publication of the allegedly offending matter at the time when it was published. That the risk that was created by the publication when it was actually published does not ultimately affect the outcome of the proceedings is immaterial. The court must look at each publication seperately as at the date of publication and consider the likelihood that it would be read by a potential juror, the likely impact of the article on an ordinary juror at the time of the publication and its residual impact on a notional juror at the time of the trial.
Publication of the following matters, prejudicial to a defendant, have been held to amount to a contempt of court; details of previous convictions, alleged confessions, assertions of guilt and prejudicial photographs.
A court would take into account the relatively limited circulation of the offending material and therefore assess the likelihood of it being seen by a potential juror, nevertheless it would be sensible to restrain comments on previous convictions or even on "bad character" until the conclusion of the proceedings.
In addition the defence could seek to have the proceedings stayed if the the prejudicial nature of any pre-trial publicity was such as to render a fair trial impossible.
The issue is covered by the Contempt of Court Act 1981 which provides:
1. In this Act "the strict liability rule" means the rule of law whereby conduct may be treated as a contempt of court as tending to interfere with the course of justice in particular legal proceedings regardless of intent to do so.
2.(1) The strict liability rule applies only in relation to publications, and for this purpose "publication" includes any speech, writing, programme included in a programme service or other communication in whatever form, which is addressed to the public at large or any section of the public.
(2) The strict liability rule applies only to a publication which creates a substantial risk that the course of justice in the proceedings in question will be seriously impeded or prejudiced.
(3) The strict liability rule applies to a publication only if the proceedings in question are active within the meaning of this section at the time of the publication.
Schedule 1 to the Act provides that proceedings are active following certain specified initial steps, one of which is arrest without warrant.
The risk that has to be assessed is the that which was created by the publication of the allegedly offending matter at the time when it was published. That the risk that was created by the publication when it was actually published does not ultimately affect the outcome of the proceedings is immaterial. The court must look at each publication seperately as at the date of publication and consider the likelihood that it would be read by a potential juror, the likely impact of the article on an ordinary juror at the time of the publication and its residual impact on a notional juror at the time of the trial.
Publication of the following matters, prejudicial to a defendant, have been held to amount to a contempt of court; details of previous convictions, alleged confessions, assertions of guilt and prejudicial photographs.
A court would take into account the relatively limited circulation of the offending material and therefore assess the likelihood of it being seen by a potential juror, nevertheless it would be sensible to restrain comments on previous convictions or even on "bad character" until the conclusion of the proceedings.
In addition the defence could seek to have the proceedings stayed if the the prejudicial nature of any pre-trial publicity was such as to render a fair trial impossible.
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Good idea to pull this thread until after the case, should there be one, just to make sure nobody here, even unintentionally, jeapoardises anything. After that, we can all let rip, just like the Parkermeister thread. Most things have already been said anyway.
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Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Here is a lesson for anyone else that is considering getting into the trafficking business. You are in it for keeps. There is no going back and if you want out, there is only one-way, often with a bullet in the head. (Or you son ends up at the bottom of a swimming pool, to get the message across) The traffickers and pushers are the scum of the earth that profit on the backs of other people’s misery. Needless to say, I have no sympathy for them.
Here is a lesson for anyone else that is considering getting into the trafficking business. You are in it for keeps. There is no going back and if you want out, there is only one-way, often with a bullet in the head. (Or you son ends up at the bottom of a swimming pool, to get the message across) The traffickers and pushers are the scum of the earth that profit on the backs of other people’s misery. Needless to say, I have no sympathy for them.
