So, was it the chicken or the beef...?
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So, was it the chicken or the beef...?
BAW 128 in to EGLL just landed after declaring a PAN with "2 crew and at least 50% of the passengers sick".....
That's about 120 people currently dashing for the T4 toilets, if the ground crews managed to pop the doors without barfing!!!!
That's about 120 people currently dashing for the T4 toilets, if the ground crews managed to pop the doors without barfing!!!!
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Gonzo, please tell me you're joking... Did we really "part the waves" for a couple of hosties.
Oh........you are so caring BC. We should part the waves for any sick person in need of urgent medical attention.
Gonzo, please tell me you're joking... Did we really "part the waves" for a couple of hosties.
Oh........you are so caring BC. We should part the waves for any sick person in need of urgent medical attention.
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Flymiss, you have missed my point (which obviously wasn't made very clearly!!!). We were informed that there were 100+ sick people on board, yet it turns out that there were only a handful.
The pilot declared a PAN because he had lots of sick pax and crew. Whenever a pilot declares a pan then we will do our upmost to provide them with an expeditious routing and get them on the ground asap. Which we did, because that is our job.
If he had not declared, and had instead just "mentioned" the parlous state of the health of those on board, angling for a straight in, our hands are tied (as has been discussed on here many times in the past) and we are not in a position to do much out of the ordinary.
Pilots have tried this in the past when they have been running late, etc and it leads to an awful lot of work for those of us controlling everything else in the way.
The pilot declared a PAN because he had lots of sick pax and crew. Whenever a pilot declares a pan then we will do our upmost to provide them with an expeditious routing and get them on the ground asap. Which we did, because that is our job.
If he had not declared, and had instead just "mentioned" the parlous state of the health of those on board, angling for a straight in, our hands are tied (as has been discussed on here many times in the past) and we are not in a position to do much out of the ordinary.
Pilots have tried this in the past when they have been running late, etc and it leads to an awful lot of work for those of us controlling everything else in the way.
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Barry Cuda,
An excellent posting!
The world is littered with wrecks caused by pilots not declaring an Emergency or a Pan. An aircraft running out of fuel due to ATC delays in North America springs to mind.
Don't forget you can always cancel a Pan or downgrade from an Emergengy to a Pan if things get better.
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An excellent posting!
The world is littered with wrecks caused by pilots not declaring an Emergency or a Pan. An aircraft running out of fuel due to ATC delays in North America springs to mind.
Don't forget you can always cancel a Pan or downgrade from an Emergengy to a Pan if things get better.
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We should part the waves for any sick person in need of urgent medical attention.
Obviously not in THAT much need of URGENT medical attention, then..
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CAP 745 is worth looking at:-
There's some stuff there for pilots as well as controllers
www.caa.co.uk
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There's some stuff there for pilots as well as controllers
www.caa.co.uk
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Thanks, MP, I was trying to find a link to that doc. To save people time reading the whole thing, although it is well worth a read, the relevant paragraph that is oft queried states:
The terms ‘fuel emergency’ and ‘medical emergency’ have no status in the UK and controllers are not required to give priority to aircraft with a reported shortage of fuel or medical problem unless an emergency is declared.
The terms ‘fuel emergency’ and ‘medical emergency’ have no status in the UK and controllers are not required to give priority to aircraft with a reported shortage of fuel or medical problem unless an emergency is declared.
