Monarch IFSD 8th Apr Diverted PXO
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Monarch IFSD 8th Apr Diverted PXO
Someone made a pretty good job of this, a relation was on board and is very impressed!
Anyone care to volunteer what happened? Basically a Gatwick-Tenerife flight due to land at about 1300 experienced IFSD and put down in Porto Santo instead.
My relation basically says "B***** H*** is that what you do?" To which I reply "Not if I can help it!"
Anyone care to volunteer what happened? Basically a Gatwick-Tenerife flight due to land at about 1300 experienced IFSD and put down in Porto Santo instead.
My relation basically says "B***** H*** is that what you do?" To which I reply "Not if I can help it!"
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Just another day in the office.
This is what we train for and are paid to do at the sharp pointy end. These things happen to aircraft, then the wheels of the airline get into motion to move the pax on to destination with as little inconvience and drama as is possible.
Thats what you pay for with a good airline.
This is what we train for and are paid to do at the sharp pointy end. These things happen to aircraft, then the wheels of the airline get into motion to move the pax on to destination with as little inconvience and drama as is possible.
Thats what you pay for with a good airline.
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Oliversarmy
You chose to respond to this thread.
I see from your profile that you are a "company director".
When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices (and fuel) whilst travelling at 550 kts and the responsibility of looking after millions of pounds worth of kit and the lives of 235 pax.
Never, thats when.
Now go away and find a forum for Penguins or Numpty's
Blackwatergoblin
You chose to respond to this thread.
I see from your profile that you are a "company director".
When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices (and fuel) whilst travelling at 550 kts and the responsibility of looking after millions of pounds worth of kit and the lives of 235 pax.
Never, thats when.
Now go away and find a forum for Penguins or Numpty's
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Blackwatergoblin,
"When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices"
Most days - unlike Monarch crews.
"........(and fuel) whilst travelling at 550 kts and the responsibility of looking after millions of pounds worth of kit and the lives of 235 pax".
Never but then that is my choice.
OA
"When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices"
Most days - unlike Monarch crews.
"........(and fuel) whilst travelling at 550 kts and the responsibility of looking after millions of pounds worth of kit and the lives of 235 pax".
Never but then that is my choice.
OA
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I speak as a humble pax, but every time I've flown Monarch I've found all the staff to be thoroughly professional.
I even met a Monarch pilot Ppruner on one flight.
oliversarmy - you're a **** for slagging people for doffing their hats to a pilot who certainly seems to have done his job efficiently and well.
Don't get peeded off because some people thank him/her.
I even met a Monarch pilot Ppruner on one flight.
oliversarmy - you're a **** for slagging people for doffing their hats to a pilot who certainly seems to have done his job efficiently and well.
Don't get peeded off because some people thank him/her.
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Thank you kooyheier and angels.
oliversarmy sounds like a wannabee who's never gonnabee
why are you bitter?
Is it because you are a failure?
We are giving a fellow professional the compliments he/she deserves.
get over it!
oliversarmy sounds like a wannabee who's never gonnabee
why are you bitter?
Is it because you are a failure?
We are giving a fellow professional the compliments he/she deserves.
get over it!
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oliversarmy:
You were asked "When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices?" Your reply was "Most days - unlike Monarch crews."
Perhaps your choice was whether to have the Chicken Tikka instead of the Madras? Or maybe it was to read The Telegraph because The Mail was not available? Hard choices without a doubt. You may find that the choices available to the Monarch crew and the pressure they felt that day made things a bit more tricky. If you have never been there you will never know. I suspect most of the professional pilots reading this forum will have a quiet satisfaction hearing of their colleagues facing a difficult situation and dealing with it well.
Mind you, you could always have had a vindaloo....now that is a difficult choice.
You were asked "When was the last time you had to make a decision with a limited amount of choices?" Your reply was "Most days - unlike Monarch crews."
Perhaps your choice was whether to have the Chicken Tikka instead of the Madras? Or maybe it was to read The Telegraph because The Mail was not available? Hard choices without a doubt. You may find that the choices available to the Monarch crew and the pressure they felt that day made things a bit more tricky. If you have never been there you will never know. I suspect most of the professional pilots reading this forum will have a quiet satisfaction hearing of their colleagues facing a difficult situation and dealing with it well.
Mind you, you could always have had a vindaloo....now that is a difficult choice.
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Surprised our well respected press haven't picked this one. "Lives flash before 235 mercyless soles as an engine explodes, forcing the pilot to nose dive and land at the nearest runway""...blah blah waffle....!
As mentioned above - it happens farely regular. This type of thing usually results in the engine being run at idle. Things were obviously worse in this case.
Well done to the drivers......
As mentioned above - it happens farely regular. This type of thing usually results in the engine being run at idle. Things were obviously worse in this case.
Well done to the drivers......
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I wouldn't say that this sort of thing is happens "fairly regularly"
I've been flying commercially for 4 years and it hasn't happened to me yet! I'm not saying that it never will and I'd like to think I'd make a good job of it if it did but come on - fairly regulalry?!?!?
Pretty infrequently is closer to the truth!!
I've been flying commercially for 4 years and it hasn't happened to me yet! I'm not saying that it never will and I'd like to think I'd make a good job of it if it did but come on - fairly regulalry?!?!?
Pretty infrequently is closer to the truth!!
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Whyeyeman - I think that these events are not totally uncommon. I personally have experienced 2 engine failures in the RAF on fast jets and 3 indicated engine fires on civil turboprops (resulting in 2 in-flight engine shutdowns as one was considered spurious). Although I have never had one on a modern jet, my last company had one in-flight and one on the ground (both on an A320/1) when it had just come into service.
Unfortunately, I cannot quote exact figures so it hard to give a totally accurate picture. Just from speaking to my colleagues I suspect that a lot of pilots half way through their expected careers will have had similar experiences, although admittedly that will be on 'older' aircraft. Clearly modern engines are significantly more reliable than they once were, but I think it would be fair to say that engine failures do still occur.
Unfortunately, I cannot quote exact figures so it hard to give a totally accurate picture. Just from speaking to my colleagues I suspect that a lot of pilots half way through their expected careers will have had similar experiences, although admittedly that will be on 'older' aircraft. Clearly modern engines are significantly more reliable than they once were, but I think it would be fair to say that engine failures do still occur.
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As for Oliversarmy....
I've always thought it rather droll that when a 'Company Director' screws up he's moved out half-way through his contract...with a 3 million pound severance payment....when we screw up, we're buried.
Instead of a golden handshake maybe Chief Executives should be made to repay the hundreds of millions they've lost during their tenure...
I've always thought it rather droll that when a 'Company Director' screws up he's moved out half-way through his contract...with a 3 million pound severance payment....when we screw up, we're buried.
Instead of a golden handshake maybe Chief Executives should be made to repay the hundreds of millions they've lost during their tenure...
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So, Oliver's Army; let's hear all about your skills and competencies as related to this site - Professional PILOTS, as obviously, as a child, your wannabe aspiration took you down a paper pusher route, and thankfully, not into the air.
If you are incapable or unwilling to say something meaningful, constructive, or witty, save your comments.
By the way, made any split second decisions on the filing in your in-tray?
If you are incapable or unwilling to say something meaningful, constructive, or witty, save your comments.
By the way, made any split second decisions on the filing in your in-tray?
