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Take a peek at http://www.continental.com/tis/pdf/200105co-world.jpg
CO used to serve these islands with 727s (now 737NGs I think), so any one of them could prob accept a 747 in a pinch.
Take a peek at http://www.continental.com/tis/pdf/200105co-world.jpg
CO used to serve these islands with 727s (now 737NGs I think), so any one of them could prob accept a 747 in a pinch.
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I used to fly air-ambulance in Lear Jets. Some patients didn’t make it. You knew they were in bad shape when they were boarded. It was still very sad when one died but everyone was prepared for that possibility.
An air-ambulance is the right way to transport these very sick people. They have all the medical equipment.
Most airlines do not allow medical oxygen to be carried and for good reason. Some patients need to be on oxygen. Taking them up to a cabin altitude of 8,000 feet without oxygen will kill some of them.
Air-ambulances are equipped to transport these very sick people in a way that helps ensure they will survive the trip. Apart from the oxygen they are equipped with IV’s, monitors, real hospital style defibrillators, even “iron lung machines” to assist the patient’s breathing.
I won’t get into the blood born pathogens and the other health risks other than to say air-ambulances are equipped to handle them and an airliner full of holidaymakers is not.
We don’t put critically sick patients on a bus or a train to send them to the hospital. Why would anyone put one on a passenger flight? We have ambulances and air-ambulances that do the job and they do it much better.
An air-ambulance is the right way to transport these very sick people. They have all the medical equipment.
Most airlines do not allow medical oxygen to be carried and for good reason. Some patients need to be on oxygen. Taking them up to a cabin altitude of 8,000 feet without oxygen will kill some of them.
Air-ambulances are equipped to transport these very sick people in a way that helps ensure they will survive the trip. Apart from the oxygen they are equipped with IV’s, monitors, real hospital style defibrillators, even “iron lung machines” to assist the patient’s breathing.
I won’t get into the blood born pathogens and the other health risks other than to say air-ambulances are equipped to handle them and an airliner full of holidaymakers is not.
We don’t put critically sick patients on a bus or a train to send them to the hospital. Why would anyone put one on a passenger flight? We have ambulances and air-ambulances that do the job and they do it much better.
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>>Well I wouldn't buy a box of cornflakes if there was a free green card in every box, that much is true.<<
Trust me, you wouldn't like it here.
But, like so many others from less fortunate countries, why are you so obsessed with things American? No need to feel so inferior, even if you weren't one of the chosen few to be born in the promised land. Be proud of who you are, just as I am proud to be an American.
I'm sure you probably couldn't get a green card but keep buying those cornflakes just in case, you never know...
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Trust me, you wouldn't like it here.
But, like so many others from less fortunate countries, why are you so obsessed with things American? No need to feel so inferior, even if you weren't one of the chosen few to be born in the promised land. Be proud of who you are, just as I am proud to be an American.
I'm sure you probably couldn't get a green card but keep buying those cornflakes just in case, you never know...
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>>During the in-flight sale of duty-frees, the widow asked the FA whether, in addition to her own allowance, she could use her dead husband's allowance!<<
Another tale of duty free and airline pax, I'm sure she cried all the way to the bank when she got home.
Eastern Airlines had a couple of evacuations in MIA years ago where the pax tried to climb back up the slides to get their duty free bottles when they realized the plane was not on fire.
Another tale of duty free and airline pax, I'm sure she cried all the way to the bank when she got home.
Eastern Airlines had a couple of evacuations in MIA years ago where the pax tried to climb back up the slides to get their duty free bottles when they realized the plane was not on fire.
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Well said Richtofen...if somebody dies on the plane,do we really want FA's whose only concern seems to be what is said in the Ops Manual.My God...what are people coming to?
Was anything said for the poor man?
Icarus...you want to watch what you say you know.
Was anything said for the poor man?
Icarus...you want to watch what you say you know.
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I am glad icarus has the opportunity to lump these three selfish freaks into the "typical American/Canadian" bunch that he feels they belong. He might have noticed that i am sure the heavy these 3 were riding in was a little fuller than 3 irate passengers and a deal body. I am sure it had a couple of hundred people on board, and none of them had a problem with this gentleman. In fact, most of them probably genuinly felt bad the the old chap had expired and wouldn't have thought about compensation. Most likely what happened is that this family went home, complained to a family friend, who happened to be a lawyer, about a dead guy on the plane, and the lawyer convinced them that they deserved to get some money back. Either that or their economy class ticket wasn't cheap enough and they figured if they could get away with a free ticket, why not...
Just my 2 cents...
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PS: just for your info icarus, the laws in canada concerning lawsuits are a little different then the ones in the states. This family wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting much more than the cost of their ticket and perhaps lawyers fees out of the deal in canada...not like the lady in the states who got millions for spilling hot mcdonalds coffee on her leg. In canada the compensation is reflective of what the people might actually deserve
Just my 2 cents...
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PS: just for your info icarus, the laws in canada concerning lawsuits are a little different then the ones in the states. This family wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting much more than the cost of their ticket and perhaps lawyers fees out of the deal in canada...not like the lady in the states who got millions for spilling hot mcdonalds coffee on her leg. In canada the compensation is reflective of what the people might actually deserve
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Unfortunately Players, the trans-border differences are becoming increasingly blurred - especially as agreements such as NAFTA effectively cede Canadian sovereignty to the US - remember the MMT case? (Where Canada was forced to pay Ethyl Corp $13 Million for loss of profits because it tried to ban MMT (methylcyclopentadienyl manganese tricarbonyl)
http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/chp/nafta.html
MMT is added to gasoline in place of tetraethyl lead -- then banned throughout Canada -- to prevent engine pinging. But many scientists believe it is also a dangerous neurotoxin. They assert that manganese absorbed by the lungs causes nerve damage leading to psychosis, memory loss and early death.
I'd also thought more recently that the $150K that Glen Clark (or more accurately BC taxpayers) had to fork out for some relatively harmless comments was manifestly excessive.
Nevertheless Players I do support your sentiments.
http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/chp/nafta.html
MMT is added to gasoline in place of tetraethyl lead -- then banned throughout Canada -- to prevent engine pinging. But many scientists believe it is also a dangerous neurotoxin. They assert that manganese absorbed by the lungs causes nerve damage leading to psychosis, memory loss and early death.
I'd also thought more recently that the $150K that Glen Clark (or more accurately BC taxpayers) had to fork out for some relatively harmless comments was manifestly excessive.
Nevertheless Players I do support your sentiments.
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I heard the following story while I worked for EI. EI do a lot of charters to Lourdes during the summer months. You get a lot of sick people going there hoping for a miracle cure. Most of the tours are arranged by religious groups. Well the story goes that some nuns were accompanying a group of sick elderly people. One of the group who was in a wheelchair died at the airport while in the departure lounge. The nuns knowing that the man came from a poor family decided that it would save the family grief and money if they said nothing and carried the guy on the plane. As you are all aware they have specially adapted wheelechairs designed to move down the aisle of an aircraft. Well that's what they did. One of the nuns sat beside the man and even ate his meal so not to alert the cabin crew. Once the aircraft arrived in Dublin the nuns told the cabin crew he had passed away on the flight.
Might be true, might not be.
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Might be true, might not be.
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IMHO the anti-American/Canadian view regarding the litigation culture is now out dated, if it ever was appropriate. This example of uncaring people out to get something for nothing is indicative of the way western society is going in general. The fact that this process may have started in America is irrelevant.
With regard to this particular case, if the deceased was in such a critical condition and the flight crew was made aware of this, I'm sure they will have done all within their power to ensure as little disruption or inconvenience to the other passengers as possible. We must remember however in our service related industry that there are always "professional tourists" that will always try to get their holiday/travel costs re-imbursed by complaining. Shame the guy didnt make it though.
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With regard to this particular case, if the deceased was in such a critical condition and the flight crew was made aware of this, I'm sure they will have done all within their power to ensure as little disruption or inconvenience to the other passengers as possible. We must remember however in our service related industry that there are always "professional tourists" that will always try to get their holiday/travel costs re-imbursed by complaining. Shame the guy didnt make it though.
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Don't think we're in a position to criticise Americans for trying to make a quick buck. Brits are just as bad now.
eg some of the pax on the BA Nairobi flight/Kenyan student
eg the Airtours stewardess attacked by a drunken pax is now suing her company.
eg some of the pax on the BA Nairobi flight/Kenyan student
eg the Airtours stewardess attacked by a drunken pax is now suing her company.
