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Old 1st Mar 2005, 08:58
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Fire at Manchester - a/c evacuated

300 evacuated after fire on Pakistani a/c at Manchester.
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BBC News 24 saying it was during A/c re-fuelling.....
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News reports say it's a PIA B777. Accident during re-fuelling.
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Sky News have this so far ....

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...172792,00.html
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Does not quite make sense that, as incident appears to have happened on taxiway near pier C and blocked most of airport at present.

There have been a large number of aircraft in hold and no movements for about 15 mins due lack of fire cover whilst all fire vehicles were involved in incident
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From the airport spokesman it sounds like the fire started after landing while taxiing to refuel.
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presumably if it happened just after landing then hot brakes are the number one suspect?
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The Boeing 777 had just landed from Karachi and was taxiing on the runway when fire started in the undercarriage, said an airport spokesman. - BBC.

very confusing so far
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Interesting bit of history!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/3791709.stm
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Not commenting on the history ....

Yesterday's incident is commented on at:

BBC News Online Story

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Morning,

Just to give you the true story (some of the reported news is not correct), a PK 777 landed this morning with but was held on a taxiway following a possible undercarriage fire - certainly smoke and steam but didn't see flames. All pax disembarked by chutes and the airport was closed for around 30 mins.

There are still some delays here as the a/c is parked on a critical taxiway.

Some flights will have been cancelled/diverted/delayed as a result of this.
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well, here's CNN's contribution

300 evacuated from Pakistan jet after it catches fire at Manchester Airport, England, wire reports say.

Watch CNN or log on to http://edition.cnn.com for the latest news.
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This is the Irish Times latest on this

Fire forces plane evacuation in Manchester
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More than 340 passengers and 12 were evacuated from a Pakistan International Airlines flight today when it caught fire at Manchester airport.

The Boeing 777 from Toronto landed at Manchester at 9.03am for refuelling on its way to Karachi.

At 9.15am the left side of the main undercarriage caught fire and passengers and crew were rushed off the aircraft.

A small number of people suffered minor injuries and were treated at the scene.

A spokeswoman for Pakistan International Airlines said the flight had come from Karachi and was going on from Manchester to Toronto.

Manchester was the scene of one of the worst UK aviation disasters when a British Airtours plane caught fire in windy conditions on take off in August 1985, and more than 50 people died.
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Sky News have just reported it was a PIA 737! I'm going along with Sky on this one, as opposed to you lot who think PIA have 777s!
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PIA do have 777's. see them all the time..
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Golly gosh 737 flys Atlantic with 300 passengers
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...I was being sarcastic!! I know they've got 777s, I control them all the time!!
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Management or ATC?
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Undercarriage 'smoke' reported after landing. Aircraft stopped on the taxyway.

Sky News (they've either got this or the Jackson trail so they're making a meal of it) reported that 'cockpit' indications initiated an evacuation. The 777 has no undercarriage fire indicating system and the only EICAS indication related to such an incident would be the 'Brake Temp'. The check list would have refered the crew to the Performance In-Flight reference table for the recommended brake cooling schedual...no mention of an evac.

MAN is pretty cool this time of year and even at MLW the 777 should not have any problem with braking, even with MAX AUTO.

Brake smoke is not uncommon and perhaps the crew found it prudent to carry out a 'precautionary' evacuation based on external visual observations; they would not have been able to see the smoke from the cockpit themselves.

Pictures show two slides, R1/R2 and stairs at L1 which indicates such a controlled evacuation.
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Is it not possible that they STILL just don't have the right kind of grease? If memory serves me correctly, this is the 4th PIA 777 undercarriage 'fire' at MAN.
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