Ryanair launches legal action against pilots' union (merged)

[FlyingIrishman]

Hold the fort lads and lasses, they need you more than you need them despite the latest developments!!

[Finman]

OK, I'll bite........what developments.......? Is there something we should know?

[FlyingIrishman]

No, just MOL continuing being his usual charming self rather than accepting that he's lost this war.

[Finman]

oh go on.....you're such a tease - like what?

[Leo Hairy-Camel]

One doesn't applaud the tenor for clearing his throat...

complaining about the lack lustre Ryanair share performance and demanding that O'Leary spend more time looking after the business and less time shooting his mouth off.

Well gee whiz, Camel Whacker, maybe its just me, but I would have thought that record passenger numbers, profit way beyond even analysts expectations, and share price knocking on 7€ is a fairly good indicator of reasonable performance. Perhaps you’re just one of these folk that are hard to convince…educationally challenged perhaps. If all of that fails to convince you, perhaps it’s the very last line in Ryanair’s most recently published financial report that might sway you. On the website under investor information, in the unlikely event you’re interested.

Shareholders’ Funds at March 31, 2005 have increased to €1,727.4m compared to €1,455.3m at March 31, 2004.

That’s 1.727 billion €uros in the bank, boys, cash money. Don’t know about you, but 1.727 billion is a lot of money to me. Who knows, maybe Ryanair should buy Aer Lingus, I hear its shortly to be flogged off.

Hi Aloue,

My Prune existence has emptied of its meaning

Only your Pprune existence? I think not. Given your remarkable inclination to gloat without reason, I’d venture a lot more that that has fallen by the wayside. It matters not, though, since you amount to little more than white noise. The sort of meaningless drone so enamoured of your fellow screeching howler monkeys who think for a moment that the current Aer Lingus pilot-funded sideshow in the courts is anything more than a pimple on the arse of progress.

I’d hold off on the champers cork for a while yet, lads. It ain’t over till the fat lady sings, and our gal hasn’t even left the dressing room yet.

[FlyingIrishman]

Welcome back MOL/DOB/WB or whoever you claim not to be this week, let the battle commence!

[Aloue]

Given your remarkable inclination to gloat without reason

Well, well L-H-C welcome back. Its sooooo nice to have you around again. All those hours on a Bank Holiday weekend hanging heavy enough to tempt you to post again?

Nice also to see that you mean to continue as you started. No gloating in my post, accusations yes, gloating no ..... but you have said it, so it must be true. Endless assertion of what is not true does not make it true. I think things are not going to change much now that you are back. Clearly you failed the retraining.

What was it that sent yourself and your acolytes into hiding so suddenly? Was it legal advice .... or, perhaps it was the repeated question asking you all to condemn intimidation of Ryanair employees by certain members of the management. Any chance of an answer to that question?

Thinks: I wonder how he will fudge the issue without answering the question?

[16 blades]

I wonder how much LHC is going to have left in the bank AFTER all the lawyers have been paid.........?

16B

[Sunfish]

Profit performance shows an increase in ancilliary revenues of about 58 million. That accounts for all of the operating profit increase. That means the operating profit margin is the same as it was before.

Ancilliary revenues now account for 16% of the total.

Looking down the report it appears that the money Rynair has earned has been invested in New Aircraft.

So you are still on the voyage guys and gals. Either Ryanair will break every other carrier and then start returning some cash to its investors, or someone else will step in and "outryanair' ryaniar, in which case you will never see a cent of your investment.

Sorry, but my guess is the latter.

[Leo Hairy-Camel]

€72,600 and counting, IALPA...ouch!

What was it that sent yourself and your acolytes into hiding so suddenly? Was it legal advice

Nope. The sheer jaw-dropping tedium of your meaningless mantra.

asking you all to condemn intimidation of Ryanair employees by certain members of the management. Any chance of an answer to that question?

First of all, Aloue old dear, I don't know what you mean by "you all". As I've written before, I'm not management, merely a Ryanair line captain with, evidently, a different view to your own as to the way Ryanair does its business. You might think it craven and odious that I admit to admiring MOL and having tremendous respect for what Ryanair has achieved in an unimaginably ruthless market, but your views on that subject are as uninteresting to me as the rest of your tawdry canon. Intimidation you say? Bollox, I say. An appropriate response to an intolerable threat to the success of our business, and thereby, my employment. Its a question of perception, and you've made your lunar left views plain on many occasion. You're clearly not in possession of the facts, but will be, I dare say, shortly.

I wonder how much LHC is going to have left in the bank AFTER all the lawyers have been paid.........?

One hell of a lot more than IALPA, darling... one HELL of a lot more.

[minuteman]

Welcome back!

Well Leo, seeing as for whatever reason you decided to rejoin the "sheer jaw-dropping tedium of [our] meaningless mantra," might you now be in a position to answer this:

REPA/IALPA/BALPA have not made any claim on behalf of FR pilots.
There is no threat of industrial action.
REPA/IALPA/BALPA have sought to clarify the terms and conditions under which FR pilots are employed.
This is at the behest of FR pilots, who have asked to be represented by these officials.

Now tell me why an ordinary FR pilot like you, should be so vehement in opposition?

Having taken such a keen interest in observing what goes on, might it be possible I bumped into you in the Four Courts recently?

Perhaps seeing as you are obviously not on a 25 minute turnaround today, you may be in a position to stop the "sheer jaw-dropping tedium of your meaningless mantra" and actually give us all a straight answer.

You seem to have the courage of your convictions, so let us get down to the nitty-gritty. What have you got to be afraid of? A "disciplinary process"?

[sky9]

Ancillary Revenue up to 208.5m e
Depreciation up only 1%
Aircraft Rental costs up by 21.9m to 33.5m
I would suggest that the profits are due to sale of new aircraft and leasing them back on operating leases.

And btw how much of the money in the bank is from fares received and costs not incurred?

What are the analyst saying about the above?

[maxalt]

Hey Leo, is it true that when your load factors started to slip late last year, and you realised you didn't need all those shiny new Boeings, that you asked Seattle to push back delivery? And that they gave you a two word answer to do with sex and travel?

I guess they didn't like your comments about how you raped them on the deal!

Haven't you learned yet Michael - your big mouth just keeps getting you in lots of trouble. Why don't you stop digging? You're already half way to Australia.

[the grim repa]

hows life in liverpool?

[A330driver]

When Senior figures cash in their chips, it's usually a sign for others to do likewise:

http://www.rte.ie/business/2005/0607/ryanair.html


Sounds like Leo is about to jump a sinking ship.

[Danny]

Sorry, far too much confusion now with contributors being unable to decide which thread to post their views. To make it simple please use this thread only: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=171893