Lionair incident UPG
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Y gents are mixing Cargo Lion operating DC8's. An other Luxembourgish operator that briefly flew B747's and Indonesia Lion Air that operated A310s and lately MD80's as well as B737-400s.
Lion Air of Indonesia went off the RWY not to long ago not once but twice would this be a new incident/accident or warming up old news?
JJ
Lion Air of Indonesia went off the RWY not to long ago not once but twice would this be a new incident/accident or warming up old news?
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>>Y gents are mixing Cargo Lion operating DC8's. An other Luxembourgish operator that briefly flew B747's and Indonesia Lion Air that operated A310s and lately MD80's as well as B737-400s.<<
Yep, I think you're right, Cargo Lion operated SIN-JKT for UPS for a while (UPS outsources much of its international flying to cut costs):
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/185030/L/
Drop rise, drop rise...
Yep, I think you're right, Cargo Lion operated SIN-JKT for UPS for a while (UPS outsources much of its international flying to cut costs):
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/185030/L/
Drop rise, drop rise...

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Flying Fokker.
Date: 30 November 2004
Airline: Lion Airlines
Flight No.: 583
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas MD-82
Location: Solo, Indonesia
Fatalities: 26:153
Are you talking about this accident or a more recent one?
Mutt.
Date: 30 November 2004
Airline: Lion Airlines
Flight No.: 583
Aircraft: McDonnell Douglas MD-82
Location: Solo, Indonesia
Fatalities: 26:153
Are you talking about this accident or a more recent one?
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And Not Forgetting their 10 Jan 05 thrills and spills at WAWW
An Indonesian jet with 155 passengers on board aborted its take off after it blew a tyre while accelerating down the runaway on Sulawesi island.
The Macdonnell Douglas MD-28 aircraft operated by budget carrier, Lion Air, managed to stop before the end of the runway.
An administrator at the Wolter Mongonsidi airport in Kendari, Mr Hamzah said all 155 passengers and the crew of eight were safe and no one was injured.
He said that the Lion Air plane was bound for Makassar in south Sulawesi.
An MD-82 airplane operated by Lion Air crashed during landing in the central Java city of Solo last month, killing at least 26 people.
Lion Air blamed bad weather for the accident, Indonesia's worst in recent history.
Lion Air announced in October it was planning to extend its service from 40 to 60 routes. link
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The Macdonnell Douglas MD-28 aircraft operated by budget carrier, Lion Air, managed to stop before the end of the runway.
An administrator at the Wolter Mongonsidi airport in Kendari, Mr Hamzah said all 155 passengers and the crew of eight were safe and no one was injured.
He said that the Lion Air plane was bound for Makassar in south Sulawesi.
An MD-82 airplane operated by Lion Air crashed during landing in the central Java city of Solo last month, killing at least 26 people.
Lion Air blamed bad weather for the accident, Indonesia's worst in recent history.
Lion Air announced in October it was planning to extend its service from 40 to 60 routes. link
date amended (still living in the past)

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Lion currently only operate MD80 and 734s. A310 operations stopped up to 2 years ago.
Previous incident was in Solo City (IATA: SOC, ICAOnew: WARQ, ICAOold: WRSQ).
Current info:
PK-LMJ, ILS ldg 13, normal touchdown and 80kt by exit D, but could not stop in last 600m. Ended up 10m off the runway in soft mud. Speculation on condition of nosegear and wingspar.
WAAA Incidents: 6 commercial jets and 1 fighter in last 6 months.
Lion Write Offs:
B732 PK-LID a couple of years back.
MD82 PK-LMJ in November.
Recent Lion Accidents (some from 2ndary sources):
15Oct PK-LMP DPS after tyre burst take off UPG
30Nov PK-LMN SOC
05Jan Reg. unkn. Kendari. 2 conflicting versions of story.
3rd week JAN, run off PDG, reg. unknown.
03Feb PK-LMJ runoff UPG
Dogma, We don't call it the skating rink for nothing!
PK-KAR
Previous incident was in Solo City (IATA: SOC, ICAOnew: WARQ, ICAOold: WRSQ).
Current info:
PK-LMJ, ILS ldg 13, normal touchdown and 80kt by exit D, but could not stop in last 600m. Ended up 10m off the runway in soft mud. Speculation on condition of nosegear and wingspar.
WAAA Incidents: 6 commercial jets and 1 fighter in last 6 months.
Lion Write Offs:
B732 PK-LID a couple of years back.
MD82 PK-LMJ in November.
Recent Lion Accidents (some from 2ndary sources):
15Oct PK-LMP DPS after tyre burst take off UPG
30Nov PK-LMN SOC
05Jan Reg. unkn. Kendari. 2 conflicting versions of story.
3rd week JAN, run off PDG, reg. unknown.
03Feb PK-LMJ runoff UPG
Dogma, We don't call it the skating rink for nothing!
PK-KAR

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Just read the accident report on that 737 that crashed a couple of years ago. Attempted to takeoff with the flaps retracted. CB defect known to maintenance.
"the examination of the aural warning CB shows that the CB can not latch in due to wear on the latching mechanism. Such wear should be remedied by replacing the CB. This however was not done. Instead, for some reason, the maintenance of the previous owner/operator installed pull-out guard on the CB. " sic
What is a pullout guard?
"the examination of the aural warning CB shows that the CB can not latch in due to wear on the latching mechanism. Such wear should be remedied by replacing the CB. This however was not done. Instead, for some reason, the maintenance of the previous owner/operator installed pull-out guard on the CB. " sic
What is a pullout guard?

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