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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 14:47
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Runway 31 90% correct, the guy placed a black bag with some sort of flamable items inside on the inboard side of the LH wing and set fire to it. He was chased by some employees of another airline who saw him from a distance but he managed to escape over the fence using the plank you mention.
The LH inner wing, fuselage etc are all damaged.
Really surprised there is not more news coverage of this.
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 14:56
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OK. You've got the how... now the why?
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 17:25
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This incident just goes to show that for all the 'security' present these days at airports there's sweet FA in place to deal with a nutter who simply hops over the fence with whatever he chooses to use to inflict damage.
Show up to work however, without yer pass, and your chances of getting through 'security' are nil. Unless that is you never ever held a pass in which case you go straight through! (visiting or GA pilots etc)

The whole thing needs a giant boot up the arse!
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 17:28
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Really quite a bizarre incident. What would be nice to know is does this guy have a problem with bmi, or did he walk around the pier to the smallest aircraft which was easily targeted due to its height off the ground.

Will be interesting to see what security issues are raised in the coming weeks.

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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 19:35
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Makes me feel really good, as a FQTV through BAA airports.

They're red hot on confiscating my nail clippers and I'm sure that this is a great contribution to security.

At least this latest miscreant could only torch the a/c, not slash the FD seats like the 73 at Stansted a while ago .... wonder if the perp used nail clippers for that little wheeze?
 
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So guess what...

Because "Security" is now an issue, I bet our anally retentive friends (The Gestapo) on security will give aircrew and extra special search on their way to work. I'd suggest that more rules will be invented like "You can't bring that wooden pallet, matches and petrol can through here Captain" and "You'll have to remove all the staples from your paperwork, don't you know that we've just had a major security incident" etc... Forgetting the fact that they doing a pointless phuqqing job in a miss-guided way supervised by knob-heads of the highest order. I hope BMI sues BAA for negligence and drives them into bankruptcy - but I doubt it
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 20:20
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Piltdown,

I went through there first thing this morning and the checks appeared no different to normal.
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 21:06
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Cool capsLOCK

Anne

Don't worry my dear, I didn't miss your point, just wondered why
you used the CAPS. Holding down the shift key requires so much more effort. It was just my Saturday night beer fuelled humour!

Back to the thread. Doesn't, on the face of it appear to be an opportunist (for that read nutter) attack but, would seem to have a certain amount of 'planning'. Someone with an axe to grind? Have BMI regional sacked anyone up there recently?

I still can't get this proposed AFS strike out of my head though.....too coincidental for my liking.

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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 23:09
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i was led to believe earlier today that it was initially believed to be pax on jetty but now suspected arson.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 01:23
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The worrying thing about this incident is that had he chosen not to light a fire, he probably would have gone unnoticed during his airside sojourn.

He could then have planted a bomb, a gun, or heaven forbid a pair of nail clippers for an accomplice to retrieve and carry out his worst in the manicure department.

In the meantime, TRANSEC continue to fiddle while security burns. Walk through security in Glasgow airport and you may find a cheap polythene sword on display (alongside a selection of manicure and personal hygiene products) in a cheap plastic cabinet confiscated from a distressed 5yr old kid. Oh yes....and police preventing limo drivers from picking up crew at the pickup point because it's a car and not a bus and therefore not entitled to use that bus stop.

I reckon being a terrorist must be one of the easiest jobs in the world right now.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 07:07
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What would be nice to know is does this guy have a problem with bmi.........
Well don't look at me! I think they're really really wonderful, truly truly kind, fantastically considerate, amazingly forward thinking and unbelievably well managed.








OK, I can't stand it........here's what I really think......

It could well be that the finger of suspicion for the EMB145 torching could point more firmly towards any bmi employee who has :-

--- Been made redundant upon a "crisis management" whim of the moment.

--- Been relocated upon a "crisis management" whim of the moment.

--- Been unfairly sacked

--- Been unfairly disciplined

--- Been unfairly treated

--- Had their terms of employment ignored.

--- Been "turned down" by them (since some posters here seem to think it matters )

--- etc

That could be a lot of angry people!

*Expects predictable and naive responses from certain biased posters with special interests*


*Knock knock*

Hello officers. Hey gerroff! Leggo! I've got an alibi!
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 08:47
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Don't worry AC..I know exactly where you were on Saturday morning !!!
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I sure hope that the authorities catch the individual(s)
and soon.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 10:09
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As I'm overseas and cannot access the company website, could someone in the know please satisfy my intrigue and tell me which a/c and the state of the damage. Cheers.

LOST.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 11:59
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The aircraft involved is G-RJXD and it ferried to Aberdeen last night and is now in the hangar alongside the BMI F100 which carried out a 0 flap landing yesterday.

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Old 24th Jan 2005, 14:00
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Anyone know if the arsonist was wearing his yellow jacket?
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 14:31
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The majority of the damage caused to the a/c is water damage from the afs, the fire damage was minimal, last i heard they needed to replace a seat, a window and possibly a flap
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 15:32
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As we discussed at work today, looking for somebody with a grudge against Regional won't dramatically reduce the list of suspects. It might mean the additional a/c at EMA might take a while longer to arrive

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Old 24th Jan 2005, 16:07
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Quote "The majority of the damage caused to the a/c is water damage from the afs, the fire damage was minimal, last i heard they needed to replace a seat, a window and possibly a flap"

Must have been some amount of water to damage a window and a flap !!!!.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 17:05
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The water/foam nozzle on airport fire trucks are quite capable of denting metal aircraft parts and breaking glass/composites when used to close.
High pressure, high volume!
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 17:06
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From the BBC. Better watch out, any number on here could be referred to as a plank!!!!


Plank appeal after airport fire

Police are treating the fire as suspicious
Police investigating an aircraft fire at Glasgow Airport say a dark coloured car carrying a plank of wood was seen near the terminal.
A plank was found leaning against the airport perimeter fence and is believed to have been used in the incident at 0350 GMT on Saturday.

The window of a parked bmi Embraer aircraft was damaged by the fire.

Police said the plank would have been about three feet longer than the car and therefore "very noticeable".

The car was seen in the vicinity of the airport terminal between 0330 and 0415.

Construction industry

Earlier, it was spotted travelling west on the M8 and left the motorway by the slip road leading to the terminal.

The plank is believed to have been tied to the driver's side of the car.

Detective Superintendent Jim Porteous appealled for scaffolders and people in the construction industry who may have information to come forward.

Strathclyde Police said they were treating the incident as wilful fire-raising, but were looking into all other lines of inquiry.

Flights were halted following the blaze.


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