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Old 22nd Jan 2005, 02:03
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To all of you wanting to know more about Emerald - suggest you spend a few minutes doing a search here on Pprune.

God knows we've posted enough stuff for you to see what a mess the company is in!
 
Old 22nd Jan 2005, 02:28
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Are there any good points about working for emerald?
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Old 22nd Jan 2005, 12:40
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Apart from the people you fly with and many of the other staff, no not really.
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Old 22nd Jan 2005, 16:48
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is the slow death finally coming to emerald
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Old 22nd Jan 2005, 18:26
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you may be right cwl the death of emerald is close but what a shame as there are a lot of good guys there and its being dragged down by a certain individual
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 11:43
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Is this not just some management manoeuvring to keep costs down? Seems Emerald has always run on a tight budget - but always returned profits - and in fairness to its drivers and crew the services are usually reliable?
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 13:11
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Tragically I don't think so. Things are so bad that we are seriously annoying customers, by not having the aircraft or crews. Our punctuality is pretty abismal, as is our serviceability rate.

We have a few crazy situations, such as taxis being sent up to LPL and CVT from Luton, simply because the Coventry and Liverpool taxi firms won't supply us since their bills haven't been paid for months. How much money does that waste?

Having spoken to some of the Shed crew, it also seems as though one of the handling agents on one of their routes are expecting to be paid upfront now, again as their bills haven't been paid. This is embarrasing for all involved.

I don't think this is actually a case of not having any money, or that the company is on shaky ground, more to do with the sheer incompetance of the management "team."

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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 16:32
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Mobster

You are right - it does really sound good or add up - How much of the companys' income and profit was lost with the loss of the mail flights....they paid well and on time...was this the turning point?

Nothing makes much sence as having ousted ChanEx in Channel Isands there are now 3 aircraft doing what one did....how can this be cheaper for the customers...more crew - more a/c more fees - more fuel......
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 17:10
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The loss of the mail flights was a blow initially, but the company seems to have plenty of work, with new contracts starting all the time. How well these are paying I have no idea.
The problem is, that whilst we have more work, we have less crew than ever before and aircraft are also not getting the routine maintenance that they need, so they are going tech down route, costing far more than just looking after them properly in the first place.

However this is nothing compared to the complete chaos caused by the utterly botched introduction of the ATP's. Money has been poured away on those basket cases. With all sorts of rumours of nest feathering in Blackpool. (A certain someone owning the recruitment company that supplies all the contract engineers.....) and total stuff ups and non-compliance to CAA requests.

The Budgies and Sheds are still doing the business under apalling conditions, poor old ops/crewing are doing an amazing job trying to keep the show on the road under unbelievable pressure, but is there any light at the end of the tunnel?
Every time you think it cannot get worse, it does and I hate seeing this company that I do care for going to rack and ruin purely because of one mans greed, arrogance and stupidity. (spleen vented, rant over, C.V's in the post.)
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 18:50
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OK another dumb question but what is the history / track record of Mr MOB....?
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 20:06
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track record:

sack
sack
sack
it's all their fault
i'm always right
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 20:15
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Delta, I wish I knew the answer to that.

Our esteemed leader? I believe he started as a loader many moons ago, how he reached his current level I'm afraid I have no idea. Though I understand that he has no formal training or qualifications to run the business (not a pre-requisite I know, but useful none the less.)

His track record? See cwllpl's response.
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 21:37
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MOB has a good track record for squeezing profit out of the company and for going out and finding contracts which is probably why he is in the job.
Until the ATP introduction, emeralds profit as percent of turnover was one of the highest in the industry.
Unfortunately running things this tightly often upsets staff, taxi companies and customers and may be counter productive in the long run.
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Old 23rd Jan 2005, 21:54
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Short term his tactics may work, but not over any decent period of time. Any idiot can run a business into the ground and cut costs everywhere. A good business man realises that staff relations in a smallish company are vital. You are never going to please everybody, but to destroy morale and profitability like this is criminal.

If there were shareholders involved, they would have been baying for his blood by now after this year.

In some cases I know that our customers are seriously unhappy. MOB may be alright at getting contracts, but that is what he should stay doing, not mucking about with things he has neither the wit nor intelligence to bother trying to understand.
Such as:
No maintenance = broken down aircraft. Murphy's law then states that this will happen as far from support as possible.
Aggravate your staff = All decent staff will leave when the opportunity arises, also crews can make and break an outfit. Treat them like idiots and a few will get all militant on you, causing small problems to become far greater. Start getting really nasty and you'll realise just how big some pilots ego's are. I've heard the phrase "f**k 'em!" far more often recently. Good will has disappeared and the constant threats he makes to the fleets "now I've got the sheds, I don't need you lot" and I'm sure vice versa just makes us despise him even more.
Discretion, what's that???? Threats aren't likely to make me want to use it on principal.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 11:37
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I should imagine the CAA and others will be looking even more closely at Emerald after one of our Sheds blew a tyre and left the runway at EIN last Friday. Glad to say the crew were unharmed, if shaken, and it's probably down to them that more serious damage was avioded.

However it begs the question as to what other faults an aircraft that was laid up for over 4 months prior to an engine change could be hiding?

Penny-pinching might be good for profit, but wondering if you will be allowed to leave an airport because the handlers and landing fees have not been paid is not good for morale.

The company has always been good at making a profit in hard times. However, it has never been the size it is now - the fleet is 3 times larger than it was in 2002 and the route structure goes further into Europe than the company have gone before.

Unless down-route support is provided for critical European contracts, to repair tech aircraft quickly, customers will be going elsewhere.
 
Old 24th Jan 2005, 11:55
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Glad to hear they are O.K. Who was it if you don't mind me asking? Which aircraft? Was it the 330 that's been stuck down in Coventry for an age?
A PM would probably be best.

Amen to your other comments.
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 11:59
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Emerald Exodus

How can you make such statements about MOB.
He is a caring, understanding man. He is only concerned about the the welfare and wellbeing of his staff and makes sure that his aircraft are fully serviceable for you to enjoy your well organised roster. Keep smiling!
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Old 24th Jan 2005, 12:08
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Absolutely!! You either smile or cry about all of this!
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Old 28th Jan 2005, 10:02
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Thumbs down


On a related topic, an access hatch from one of the budgies was apparently left on the runway at EMA this morning......
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Old 28th Jan 2005, 14:48
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I've just booked a ticket for next Thursday.....will there be someone left to fly me?
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