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Old 4th Feb 2005, 15:32
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Been common knowledge for a month!
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Old 4th Feb 2005, 17:04
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Just read (on ATI) that JR's joined Virgin Express as Ops Director.
Virgin on the ridiculous! (to say the least).

They obviously have'nt researched too well before recruiting.


Good move by JR though. baby ain't going anywhere.....certainly no prospect of expansion to the necessary critical mass. No expansion to critical mass = no future in the lo-cost business.
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It is old news - it was on the bmi pprune forum when the original company notice came out last month!

The question is who will be the successor? CW is out of the running as he is on his way as well.

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Alterego,

Who is this CW. I have applied to Tiger Airways but the huge amount of paperwork they need is enough to put anyone off.

What's going on in Singapore if a Senior Training Captain is going there? Anyone got any information before I make a big mistake in moving halfway around the world.

Tiger seems OK - strong shareholders, nice place etc. What's this CW like? What's his background and what about the current pilot management in Tiger? Have they resigned/been dumped?

I really need some info to avoid a possible big mistake for me and my family.

Many thanks for any help available
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You can not be serious wanting details of a person on this forum!
Who are you more like, what's your beef exactly?
Are you someone known?
If you don't know who CW is then you don't need to, simple.
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Old 5th Feb 2005, 23:25
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YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNN!!!
typical bus1 diatribe I wonder how the airline manages without you these days! . In fact baby are doing ok and will survive because they have the nouse and strength to succeed, perhaps the fleet might expand if the LH influence goes, either way they will be ok
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Like all start-ups, Tiger has been through a tough time. There's a new CEO and the rumour-mill says that he is doing a good job of putting the airline onto a better day to day footing.

The CAA in Singapore makes our own chopper down of trees look distinctly amateur! However, once though the hoops, it is no big deal.

Tiger has four parents, Ryanair, SIA, the Government investment organisation and Indigo Partners. They have in common that they want to make money. They differ widely in how. This has resulted in a somewhat disorganised start, but as I said things are improving.

Be very careful to establish from exisiting Tiger, Jetstar, Valuair or SIA pilots what it costs to live in Singapore.

If you are single and meet all the requirements of a Captain as defined by CAAS, then Tiger may well be worth a visit - Singapore is a good place to live. For those who will only get CPL privileges issued by CAAS, and so can only fly as an FO, be prepared to have to do all the ATPL exams again (JAA format) at the time you meet the CAAS command requirements. Doing the exams locally is possible but not to undertaken lightly.

Be careful
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It has just been announced that JR's replacement is to be Tim Berry.
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where?


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If TB has got the job then turnover of staff will not slow down.

Not sure how many have their notice in at present but I do know of several who are waiting for results of interviews/sim rides.

Recruitment may not be a problem but turnover of staff is bad and only going to go one way.
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TB definitely has the post .........

What is more interesting is who he chooses to be his chief pilot, and flight training manager. A quick look at the pilot list doesn't seem to throw up any obvious candidates from within.

Maybe he will have to look to mainline ?

Any ideas........



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Cool

Alterego

Are you sure you chose the right career ? you seems not a happy bunny !

With a man of your foresight, can you give me 6 winning lottery numbers for Saturday ?
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If could give you 6 good numbers, I would not be going to work each day.

There are many colleagues who are very unhappy and most of the guys I know are actively looking elsewhere. Both COs & FOs.
Alot of the reasons for this are the attitude and actions of management, who fail to grasp that there are choices for guys with experience.

12-18 monhs ago we had to accept whatever was on offer but times have changed and management must realise this. Why else would 97 % of the Balpa membership vote for industrial action?
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Are you sure you chose the right career ? you seems not a happy bunny !
You could be accurately targeting 90% plus of the pilot workforce with that comment! Unhappy and wondering if they chose the right career!

Recruitment may not be a problem but turnover of staff is bad and only going to go one way
High levels of recruitment and turnover of staff can arguably have implications for standards (and, therefore, safety) for as long as it continues (and for some time afterwards until experience is gained).
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what absolute drivel!!! the calibre of staff at baby cannot be called into question they are an extremely professional bunch of people
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I think AC bus is saying that if you constantly lose people and are training up new crews, there is going to be a net loss of experience.

Nothing to do with the calibre of the new guys.

Let's face it there are so many new routes and such a large expansion (joking) that it's hard to keep up even if you have experience of low cost 737 ops!
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Spot on, alterego.

But then, only a pilot would appreciate the true value of experience in this context.

Horrendous weather (within limits), Tech Log stuffed with Carried Forwards (within the MEL) and a new tech problem, or an airfield closure, or a medical problem, or a diversion or.........etc etc etc thrown in during flight for good measure. The last thing you need is a newly trained colleague "helping" instead of someone with a few years on type, route and operation under his/her belt/corset.

The same even applies to normal operation. Especially true in the lo-cost, pressure driven environment.

That's the value of a stable workforce.


No doubt holes could be picked in the above statement, but if you show willing, you'll get the jist of my meaning.

I live in hope.
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Old 10th Feb 2005, 22:13
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I would be more willing to listen to a point of view if it was made in a serious and honest way rather than as a thinly disguised attack on one of the better employers in our industry by a disgruntled ex employee ,you might also consider that many of our "newly" trained colleagues have by necessity spent a considerable time reading and inwardly digesting the vol9 and tech 8 so quite possibly may be better up to speed on current procedures than some longer serving flight deck members, if and when you get a command you might be pleasantly surprised if you give these guys and girls a chance
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I C

Knowledge is one thing but experience another.

You are quite correct that the new guys/gals are as capable as any of the staff but it does take time to get upto speed in any new airline job. This is especially so in the pressurised world of Low cost. It is a strain on resources such as line trainers, training dep't and rosterers. It also means, by nature of our industry, disruption to those on the line already.

There is also an increase in training cost to the company, which in the case of pilots is not insignificant when you consider all the groundschool, sim checks and line training and the associated hotac, taxying, etc.

It is, surely, better to look after your existing staff better than to constantly have to replace them.
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That is a fair comment that puts forward a reasonable point of view in a constructive manner, rather than some of the whinge / moan type postings that some of our less objective friends tend to submit in futile attempts to continue personal vendettas against former employers

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