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NationalJet Italia : no salaries this month for staff

Old 11th Aug 2001, 00:13
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Unhappy NationalJet Italia : no salaries this month for staff

I talked to a friend working in NJI, and she told me the staff didn't get paid this month.
The official excuse is that the company is getting into the stock market. I tried very hard, but couldn't figure out one reason why the two things should be correlated.
Having had previous bad experiences, I know that this is a very grim sign.
Another piece of the italian civil aviation going down the drain?

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Old 11th Aug 2001, 00:23
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Isn't NJI the franchisee set up by BA? If that's correct, why doesn't BA stump up the dosh??
 
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Because BA sold their stake. They retain just 1 share in NJI
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I hope they are not going down the spout i have a few good friends there who could be out of work.
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To the guys and gals working for NJI, some advice I was given many years ago when starting out on contract flying.

Let there be two conditions only when you refuse to fly:
1. When the operation is unsafe.
2. When you haven't been paid.

Have only had to use number 2 twice and on both occasions was paid within 12 hours.
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As far as I know British World have -146s down there. Should be interesting to se what their reaction is.
 
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British World have no aircraft with NJI.
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can anyone enlighten me. Was NJI set up by the same person who once owned NJS Australia. If he is having problems I have every sympathy with the employees, but it couldnt have happened to a nicer bloke. That man caused myself and a collegue no end of problems.
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Old 11th Aug 2001, 15:29
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Not talking about NH, by any chance, Rover2701?
 
Old 11th Aug 2001, 15:41
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National Jet is referred to as National Junk in Australia...and for very good reason!

Don't waste your time with this mob!
 
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1st guess incorrect. Enlighten me whos NH?
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Old 11th Aug 2001, 19:38
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Oh no, for my freinds there, I hope this is not true
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NJI still operates on British World's AOC, I believe.
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It IS true, I know it firsthand.
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I think NJI has been sold by its founder W.S. (who also owned NJS OZ) to some ex Cathay pacific managers. They are operating BAe 146 and B737 a/c as a British Airways franchise. They were using the AOC of British World to kick off operations however are in the process of arranging their own.

The money is supposedly pretty good, however living and working in a country of highly emotional and melodramatic philanderers may not be your cup of tea!
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WS has bailed out in time then. To bad
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Old 12th Aug 2001, 03:40
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Can anyone give me some info about this company and who runs it? I've heard a few things about them, I've been offered a job with them now I want to know more about them.
Whats with the Australia connection?
 
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Well well well, I'd often wondered what happened to the National Junk ringleaders!
Knew a few guys back in God's garden who got rightly stuffed by them. I can't understand how BA got into bed with them though, you'd imagine they'd be more careful who they allow fly in the colors.
Oh and Ellion rule 1 should be invoked in this case too if its anything to do with NJ Oz.
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Old 12th Aug 2001, 05:10
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Agreed Ellion - no pay=no fly. Several years ago, I made the mistake of allowing my employer to "skip" or only partially pay the occasional salary due. By the end of the contract period, he owed me USD26,000!! In spite of subsequent legal action, on my part (and other pilots to whom he did likewise), I have not recovered one cent of the outstanding monies.

Effectively, we received probably 30-40% less than the original agreed, contract rate - in other words, he LIED from the outset as to what our salaries would be, obviously knowing that he NEVER intended paying us at that rate. On the other hand, we fulfilled OUR obligations to the letter. and more!

DON'T give the b@st@rds an inch - tell them that YOU have (financial) obligations to fulfil and that if they don't pay you that which is currently outstanding you cannot afford to stay with them. If no joy, get LEGAL muscle into play NOW!!

Best of luck.
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Perhaps the sale of NJI to the Tolmount Group for UKP35 Million may have
something to do with it. Peter Sutch ex Cathay Pacific, heads up
Tolmount so I have read.
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