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NationalJet Italia : no salaries this month for staff

Old 12th Aug 2001, 17:44
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Shakespeare - I'd have to admit to rather be sitting down in Italy enjoying the sun by the sea and watching beautiful women, than sitting in rainy England and be drinking tea, watching 'mad cows'.

..but then again we all make our choices...
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Old 12th Aug 2001, 18:26
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Good point KADS. Can't say I have been looking at too many mad cows lately, however if you have some spare turf on your beach towel, I would cetainly like to engage in some horizontal activity with your mediterranean friends!
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Old 13th Aug 2001, 12:58
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There are a few points that have always confused me about NJI:
Why would BA sign an agreement with Australians to set up an airline in Italy?
Why are they flying on British World AOC, it would have been better to get their own from the Italian CAA.
Basically NJI operate in Italy, fly British Airways colours, operate on British World AOC and are run by Australians! It all sounds a bit confusing...
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Old 13th Aug 2001, 17:21
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Heard it's all true, ground staff haven't been paid the june salaries,F/A's and some of the pilots haven't been paid july salaries.
Apparently a couple of italian pilots already resigned and the rumor is that only the foreign pilots got paid.
Also heard strange stories about dodgy contracts at NJI.
Very surprising that BA allows this to happen.....
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What about the engineers, have they been paid? I know a few guys there and despite one or two hic-ups its a good deal financially. I had heard they were having 'cash flow' problems due to this floatation.
Does anyone know any more about the floatation and on which market? Does the Oz guy still own them?
 
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Well guys
A few pointers for those considering the deal.As I have been out on the said contract I speak with a little authority.
1.NJI are as said before the rogues from down under doing it over here.
2.The contract deal changes daily depending on cash flows, nationality, and sex would you believe it.
3.It's definitely marginal on safety(thats why I left it alone!)
4.The cash is good the living is fun but thats marred by obscene conditions of service and a total disregard of FTL's
5.Engineering is good but v shorthanded.

Finally if you only have this as a job, take care and keep looking.
They play V dirty and will fire on the spot there is no insurance or any other form of come back.
I personally would'nt touch them with a barge pole and certainly their employment philosphy comes from that A---hole WS!
There you have it, "Buyer Beware!"
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 01:45
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What amazes me,( and I am sure all above posts are true), is how the hell BA ever went into a deal with these people in the first place. And if it is true that there is no money, well some advise (From an old jolly you know, to he from the northwest of oz), STOP flying now, no pay is no fly, and KAC with jets still has to pay
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 04:48
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For those of you wondering how this convaluted operation got off the ground remember that Wozza and Jimmy Bowtie are mates from way back.

Chuckles.
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Dodger, most of what you say may / or may not be true but one thing that you say is not :
It's definitely marginal on safety(thats why I left it alone!)
I have been operating there for NJI and this is not the case. Did you do any work for them, or did you just go for an interview, look around the office and decide that it was an unsafe operation from inside, before you "left it well alone" ?
 
Old 17th Aug 2001, 11:49
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i'm working for nji what i've read is all true . this is the point:
the company (ws) didn't pay our salaries (italians) we complayn a lot , two f/o quitted and than they decided to give us in advance 500 euros to complay with our needs. some one accepted it , i refuse to take it this is an insult for me . now after a lot of bad words they decided to pay us half of the wage. anyway this is not a correct behavior. is possible that a company can have problems one month , but is so easy to write a letter by the end of july stating : ok guys we are beeing floated ao we are waiting some money please be patient and everythings will be ok for the end of august, this is more polite behevior for mr WS. they didin't . :o
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Latest news: they promised to pay July salary on the 23rd of August.
Any bet?
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Old 22nd Aug 2001, 13:27
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I agree with Dodger,I worked at NJI last year and left for the same reasons as Dodger,quite the most amaturish bunch I have ever seen.De-ja vue on pay,the same thing happened last November no pay for EU crew but the OZ crews got paid,it was resolved when I refused to operate until my crew had been paid,faxed to my bank within 2 hours.
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Old 22nd Aug 2001, 13:58
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Peter Sutch (Tolmount) & Rod Eddington are big buddies from the fragrant harbour!
Eddo is of course an Ozzie......just tying up a few lose ends.

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Old 22nd Aug 2001, 22:28
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Heard some of the foreign pilots don't even have an EU passport and some have only validations of their non JAA licences...this situation is not only illegal from a licencing and immigration point of view but also extremely disrespectful if you consider that those who are EU citizens and have EU licences don't get paid!!!
Hope this is not where Europe is heading to....
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Old 24th Aug 2001, 02:23
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So, did they pay up today???
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Old 24th Aug 2001, 16:46
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Just out of curiosity? how does an aussie fly for this company, or for that matter any in Italy or Europe sans the EU ATP? Can someone enlighten me on how this is worked out? Is it different for Italy? V's UK??

thanks for your help
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Old 24th Aug 2001, 21:36
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One of the main problems with a forum like this is that people often express opinions about which they have very few facts to back them up. The good thing is that we all still have the right to express them.

I find it particularly disturbing to read such comments as "Amaturish" Let me say that I have had first hand experience with the company and was impressed with the high standard set by line trainers and check captains alike. Things are not always as well organised as we would like..thats life.

The truth is that there is no shortage of pilots lining up to join the company. Lets hope they can get over the next week or so
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Old 24th Aug 2001, 21:53
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So did they get paid or not?

Neat trick to pay only the foreigners, if you don't pay the foreigners they pack up and leave, if you don't pay the locals they usually don't pack up and leave they just wave their arms and shout a bit, but the Italians do this anyway.
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Old 26th Aug 2001, 21:58
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Did they get paid yet?
Whose turn is it next month?
 
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Seems not......
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