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Old 13th Aug 2001, 11:37
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I would not have been as vitriolic as Finn at his departure but I do know several people who will be very glad at his fate.
Rumour over here was that he cost the company too much money.

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Old 13th Aug 2001, 16:31
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Do you mean the CP???
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I think you are refering to the MD who came from Leisure before they were sold to Air 2000
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 00:20
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well we seem to be full every trip....and thats the widebodies.......
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 01:57
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Airtours don't have a problem filling their aircraft. They just seem to have something against their passengers getting airborne.

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Old 14th Aug 2001, 03:31
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Day Dreamer, we have established that, I am wondering why he went. Any AIH people care to share?
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 11:45
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Guv - are talking up a 'recession' again...

Why ?...

People are using the alleged recession as
an excuse for inactivity ....

Airtours pre-tax profits for the three months to 30 June were £4.2m, in comparison to a loss of £2m in the same period last year.

This is excellent and a credit to the company which is clearly doing very well

Airtours Summer bookings were up 12% in the UK, while group bookings for the winter are also up 9%.

The company's chairman David Crossland said he was "extremely pleased" with the results.

I cant say I disagree the company is doing well

Im sure it will be accounted for in the next payround!
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 15:22
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Guv,if you look closely you will see that all Airtours ticket desks in the UK have been rebranded Mytravel.
It is a device to represent all Airtours Group companies eg Direct Holidays,Panorama,Manosetc a sensible,if overdue rationalisation.
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Old 14th Aug 2001, 15:23
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SFly,

'Personal Reasons' is the official line, which only adds to the speculation. Haven't heard any reasons with any weight behind them though.

Interesting times at AIH - a lot happening at the top!

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Old 14th Aug 2001, 16:51
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Yes I accept some flights maybe full , but, the revenue is very poor. £79 in august to PMI a worry for everyone. Pure and simple there is too much capacity in the market and no one is doing well.....no one!
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 13:05
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Desk Driver,

Where do yo get your information from? Also you talk about £79.00 to PMI to which you must be referring to schedule, and yet earlier on you were talking about charters.

I am confused at which sector of the market you are talking about.
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 13:37
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RVR800 - you 'blue sky-ing' it again, mate? You must be about the only person in the UK not to accept that we're in an economic downtun (and btw it's official - the industrial sector of the UK economy is in recession, according to the Treasury and the Bank of England ... but what would they know? ) - and whilst the service sector is doing fine at the moment that will change over the next few months. On the charter side of the fence, loads and bookings are well down and I'm convinced that at least one major operator will probably be a casualty.

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What Guv, another 'casualty'?

Just like your Caledonian Wings/Lionair which seems also to have been a 'casualty'(or a non starter depending on personal viewpoint)...
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 16:35
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Marko,

I'm still talking about charter

LGW - PMI 23/8/01 14 nts £79 inc (see your local travel agent for details)

As for getting this info, well I'm the guy who has to explain why prices are so low in august to the large cheeses. Not a good desk to drive at the moment.
This year Capacity is way over and pressure to fly LGW slots or lose them is immense. Let's hope that aircraft utilization around europe for the major charter boys and (won't happen) but a secound runway at LGW kicks in sooner rather than later.

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SFly,

I thought you were an AIH person?
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Old 16th Aug 2001, 23:13
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On the matter of the UK economy and the next year or two I would urge eveyone to read this article by Anatole Kaletsky in The Times today -
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,...283468,00.html

Anatole won a prestigous award recently for writing the best piece of economic journalism in the UK press. I have found his judgement to have been quite reliable over the years.

I for one am looking forward to next years boom...

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