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Old 19th November 2004 | 21:45
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BBC Northwest news reporting that the aircraft was in danger of being shot down.


I'm just interested to know just what further procedures would have been, if contact had not been forthcoming. Presumably they were descending into the Manchester TMA, and a lot of other traffic.


Just curious, thanks
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Old 19th November 2004 | 21:54
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I can't help thinking the BBC have got their knickers in a twist here -unless we are talking about two nearly identical incidents a week apart. Has their been another incident today (Fri 19th) or is this a re-report of last week?

As to the very valid question of what would have happened next, a worthwhile subject for discussion. If it was in the USA the PIA might have been in for trouble
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Old 19th November 2004 | 22:03
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Shot One,



It's last weeks incident as far as I am aware. As Niteflite said, they have picked up on it very late. Must have been a slow day on the news.
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Old 19th November 2004 | 22:14
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The media it seems only have half a story - as usual. I believe that the 81 pax referred to were only those offloading in MAN. The A/C was apparently full.
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Old 19th November 2004 | 23:24
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In answer to your question any possibly conflicting traffic
(nay any traffic at all) would have been well and truly out of the way by that stage.

Beyond that the answer lies with people with rather more supposed power than you or I.
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Old 20th November 2004 | 06:45
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I believe that the 81 pax referred to were only those offloading in MAN. The A/C was apparently full.
PK709 is LHE-MAN-LHE, so there would of been no transit pax onboard all pax would get off at MAN, don't know actual figures.

Capts report stated that contact was lost with Maastrict who failed to transfer them to London, but was in contact with London throughout and was unaware of any problem. Tech log write up was VHF 1 intermittant transmit/receive!
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Old 20th November 2004 | 15:54
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A Tech Log write up from a PIA flight crew?

Now THAT I do not believe!!
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Old 20th November 2004 | 17:45
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FL370 no problem in F3 (I have over 1700hrs in them) - knew of someone who took one to 67K once (idiot without a pressure suit!).

Speeds and heights that most airliners fly at no probs at all - could even chase down Concorde (but would run out of fuel first probably!).

It would be nice if the MOD charged the airlines for all the grief that NORDO airliners cause us in the military (I'll now duck for cover for the tirade of abuse ;-).

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Old 20th November 2004 | 19:16
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Leon, I think you should actually thank those NORDO guys as it's the only way you guys can log a few hours with the budgets strained as they are :-)..

P.S. Wouldn't mind trading the 'Bus for the F3 for a day!
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Old 21st November 2004 | 13:33
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Thanks Leon Jabachjabicz
So I wasn't being thick after all.... and no need for Optimax either
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Old 22nd November 2004 | 22:35
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I'll swap my job on the 'fin' for a job on the 'bus' next year - OK?

I hope the grass isn't greener on the other side!!!

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