How many Easy Jet Applications ????????
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How many Easy Jet Applications ????????
Spoke to a good friend today who said to me that he managed to speak to someone from easy jet recruitmant , and aparently they said they had received over 8000 applications for f/o vacancies. . .. .Could this be true ? it's just hard to imagine so many qualified pilots out there unemployed.. .. .I know after 11/9 there were redundancies but this number seems unbeleivable.. .. .Hope this isn't true because i don't think they'll be many jobs for us in the next few years.. .. .Before you do , don't shoot the messenger. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
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Best of luck to Easyjet but they are beginning to sound like Air Europe about 12 years ago - lots of new shiny jets, quick commands, pretty decent salary, bullish approach, every man and his dog (it seems) wanting to join, taking the world by storm, show every other airline how it should be done etc,etc,etc.. .. .Having been in the industry a while now maybe I'm getting a bit cynical in my old age.. .. .Anybody else out there feeling the same way?
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Sir Kitt Braker . .. .Surely they would all have to meet the minimum standards required to even apply ?. .. .Big Tudor . .. .Good point but it's still a frightening figure. Even if %50 have 2000+ hrs it is still 4000 people, with more experience in front of us all.. .. .Saying that , on the wannabe's forum there's a few guy's got into EZ with only 250hrs through CTC and i know a friend of a friend whose just got into Ryanair with only 250 hrs so maybe it's not all doom and gloom............hopefully
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As previously stated by another member, of the 8000 applications, I suspect many are in the "not qualified" bracket. I went to an easyjet roadshow day recently, and was very disappointed. They only had three people representing the company, stating they did not expect so many people to turn up, (around 300 at 10.00am!). I find this an astonishing oversight on their part given the level of unemployment in the market at present. In the question and answer session that followed the presentation, many people queried the online application process, in particular the lack of replies. I myself know of many good pilots, many of them type rated, who have been rejected by easyjet. In this market, and given the alleged 8000 strong database, they surely have the pick of the bunch, which is why I am still curious as to why they feel the need to run recruitment roadshows. The very fact that they have seemingly rejected some very good operators, would seem to suggest that maybe they should take a good look at their recruitment process, which it has to be said seems to be failing them.
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There appears to be no logic to the ezy recruitment process. I have been trying to get as far as the first stage -a reply - for close on two years.I have 2000+ hrs turboprop and boeing time and have filled the form in 4 times to no avail. There are many that I know of that have beaten the system with far less experience in a matter of weeks.--I feel its the old "falling on the desk at the right time scenario"
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that is certainly one possibility...but I know from first hand that you also have excellent chances if you use the right vitamine C. C = contact.. .. .Not so difficult to get in if you have someone who tells someone to see at an application which just poors in through the wires....I personally know three chaps who made in into the left hand seat (contract-wise) within less than 4 weeks.. .. .But isn't this the procedure all around the places these days? Well qualified and experienced colleagues are sitting and waiting for a job and non-rated and (classified)..... others are employed without any concern.. .. . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="mad.gif" />
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I can assure you, as fact, that there are not 8,000 suitably qualified or licensed pilots available in the market-place that would meet EJ's requirements. But, let's suppose for one minute that there were, you can rest assured that the same 8,000 applications were sitting on the desk of every other airline in Europe too. . .. .Every experienced Ops Director knows that is how the business is!
I suspect that if postern is anything to go by, those 8000 applications are made up of alot of dupicates. I have to say, I would think that 8000 aplicants makes up a large proportion of ATPL/CPL hloders in the UK.
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What the hell, who on earth would want to work for easyJet anyway. They seem already out of control. The recruitment is one thing for example. Their management is another. Rubbish I say.
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The on-line system used by Easyjet permits. .duplicate applications. If the file was filtered. .it would be a lot less. . .. .This is presumably why partly why Ryanair use payments to prevent timewasters and duplicate applications. .. .There are only 10,500 ATPLs with the UK CAA althogh there could be many applications from the Continent now that they are not cut off from our recruitment processes (Good this JAR thing isn't it?). .. .Thought for today... .Why dont the Europeans join the stirling zone. .lower and falling unemployment and higher growth?
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yes I agree, lots of duplicates, and many may not be intentional. When you do a update, it does not replace your previous application. Explains why I get about 3 or 4 emails when they do those broadcast news updates they send out.
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I thought I would get online and put the record straight. Yes, there are around 8000 applications on the EZY recruitment database but this made of all the people who applied since the database was created back in 1999. Furthermore these people have applied from all over the world (not just the UK) and many of them did not or do not meet our requirements at the time of application.. .. .Regarding duplicates, we do encourage people who do not meet our requirements to send us updates when their hours increase or if they start flying on a new type. This enable us to keep a track record of their career.. .. .Finally we receive more applications that meet our requirements that actual vacancies we have available and in all fairness we can not invite everybody to a recruitment workshop.
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Thanks, Joyce <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> . .. .PS - how are you off for chocolates? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />. . . . <small>[ 21 March 2002, 17:29: Message edited by: HugMonster ]</small>
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Miss Kitty,. .. .Your response makes interesting reading, may I invite you to answer the following:. .. .My previous post on this thread asks the question; why do so many good pilots fail the easyjet selection process? I know of many very, very good pilots who have passed through your doors, but fail to satisfy your exacting requirements. Could it be that your selection process is failing the pilots, rather than good pilots failing your selection process?. .. .And before anyone says it, I do not have a current application in with easyjet.
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Harry. .. .Are you suggesting that the recruitment process at other airlines or any airline for that matter is perfect? . .. .Are you aware of the failure rate at easy in comparison to other airlines?. .. .I think you will find that its not all that bad. It is not in the interests of the recruitment team to fail candidates for the hell of it in fact if everyone passed there would be more time for the BBQ beers!. .. .Take it easy.. .. ..con
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Our 48 hour selection process is designed to assess not only a pilots capability on the flightdeck but also their cultural fit with the company. Whilst no selction process can be completely foolproof we have a success rate which is consistently above 80%. However, as with any assessment, there is always an element of how well someone performs on the day - and we all have the occasional bad day!. .We are aware that it is frustrating to complete an on-line application form and then have to wait to hear from us which is why we send regular e-mail updates and one of the reasons we have the open days. . .We are constantly reviewing our recruitment and selction process and striving to improve it, which is why we actively seek feedback from the open days.