Should I Worry about Flying? (merged)
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Should I Worry about Flying?
Anyone watching this program on BBC1? Usual sensationalist garbage. Only 12 minutes into the 30 minute program and I've learned that Airproxes during missed approaches at parallel runways are a daily occurence, and that we have no way of recording the frequency of these or TCAS RAs. Apparently the procedures for keeping aircraft seperated are a bit 'hush hush' and nobody will talk to the BBC about it! Strangely they don't get an interview with NATS, but David Learmouth is only too willing to publicise himself, er, I mean speak to the Beeb.
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Should I Worry About Flying - BBC1 Now
Wonderful reconstruction of a go around featured on this little gem of a show, using RC models, which summed it up for me.
Any thoughts anyone ?
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David Learmouth is famous for talking a load of old Bollocks!
The guy is a menace to aviation!
Good advice for MR Learmouth :
It is better to remain silent and let the world think your a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!!!!
The guy is a menace to aviation!
Good advice for MR Learmouth :
It is better to remain silent and let the world think your a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!!!!!
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Shoulda stuck to what he thought he knew about....salt and water in sausages......oh, and a bit about cars....
Complete CR@P.
Now, where did I leave my radio controlled Herc............?
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Complete CR@P.
Now, where did I leave my radio controlled Herc............?
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Wish I had had the advantage of remote control planes when I was at Heathrow; would have made the g/a situation great fun!
Strange how Mr Learmount pops up whenever the media wants to scare the sh*t out of , sorry talk about aviation and the public. Has he ever qualified in aviation in any particular discipline???
Strange how Mr Learmount pops up whenever the media wants to scare the sh*t out of , sorry talk about aviation and the public. Has he ever qualified in aviation in any particular discipline???
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Oh yes... does any one know who that bloke Kim is? I've never heard of him and if he ever was an ATCO I'm glad I never sat near him.
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He was a Herc copilot and then a flying instructor. He gave up flying on medical grounds around 27 years ago and got a job with Flight magazine. He used to talk sense at first but for many years now its all been total rubbish.
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Programes like this are always a bit worrying. You watch the first few in the series, which were about about fat & salt in food and the possible health risks of mobile phones etc and think 'hmmm, thats a bit disturbing'.
Then they screen a programme that you know a bit about and you think ' Thats complete b*ll**ks!' Which then makes you doubt the accuracy of all the preceeding programmes.
I was suitably impressed though, when the presenter arrived at an airfield to fly to Oxford and he announced' We're at Biggin, which is really close to Heathrow'
Sure, its close to Heathrow, but its closer to Gatwick & London City.
The most interesting and not entirely unexpected observation was that DVT is caused as a result of sitting still, as opposed to sitting still in an aircraft
Then they screen a programme that you know a bit about and you think ' Thats complete b*ll**ks!' Which then makes you doubt the accuracy of all the preceeding programmes.
I was suitably impressed though, when the presenter arrived at an airfield to fly to Oxford and he announced' We're at Biggin, which is really close to Heathrow'
Sure, its close to Heathrow, but its closer to Gatwick & London City.The most interesting and not entirely unexpected observation was that DVT is caused as a result of sitting still, as opposed to sitting still in an aircraft
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I didn't think it was all that bad....
remember it is to entertain the great unwashed!
and i thought the DVT bit was quite fairto us, sitting still not airlines was the problem, watch out National Express, cinemas, concert halls
people can stretch their legs on a flight if they want, ah but will they want to sue the skip if he puts on the seatbelt sign for too long!!
remember it is to entertain the great unwashed!
and i thought the DVT bit was quite fairto us, sitting still not airlines was the problem, watch out National Express, cinemas, concert halls
people can stretch their legs on a flight if they want, ah but will they want to sue the skip if he puts on the seatbelt sign for too long!!
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to sue the skip if he puts on the seatbelt sign for too long!!
Mind you they get sued if its not on and they hit a bump!
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I'm told that DVT used to be quite common among German holidaymakers in the days when they all took 36-hour coach trips to the Med resorts.
Then along came mass air travel and the problem went away
Then along came mass air travel and the problem went away
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Oh yes... does any one know who that bloke Kim is? I've never heard of him and if he ever was an ATCO I'm glad I never sat near him.
In other words, as far from the real world of Air Traffic Management as you could possibly get.
Funny that someone who allegedly was in a top post at SRG seems to be unaware of the MOR scheme or the ACAS/TCAS evaluation forms which we all have to fill in.
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There were a couple of good points for the general public to take away.
1. Listen to the safety briefing.
2. Move your legs and or wear support socks for long flights to reduce the risk of DVT.
If more punters did that then the programme's been a success.
As for the use of the models to show a go-round, WTF? The ATC simulation didn't really teach much either. Some demonstration of the collision alert software and how the controllers handle traffic would have been more productive.
1. Listen to the safety briefing.
2. Move your legs and or wear support socks for long flights to reduce the risk of DVT.
If more punters did that then the programme's been a success.
As for the use of the models to show a go-round, WTF? The ATC simulation didn't really teach much either. Some demonstration of the collision alert software and how the controllers handle traffic would have been more productive.
