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Ryanair pilots form new union
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/stor...3565&n=2573642
Ryanair pilots have reportedly formed a new trade union to represent their interests, despite the fact that the Irish airline normally refuses to recognise such organisations.
Reports this morning said the Ryanair European Pilots Association would represent at least 85% of the companies’ 500 pilots, who work at 11 bases throughout the continent.
The union will reportedly concentrate on technical and safety issues, but is also expected to seek a role in the negotiation of new pilots’ contracts in 2005.
Ryanair pilots are reportedly unhappy with the current system of negotiating pay and conditions and REPA was established to address these and other concerns.
Ryanair pilots have reportedly formed a new trade union to represent their interests, despite the fact that the Irish airline normally refuses to recognise such organisations.
Reports this morning said the Ryanair European Pilots Association would represent at least 85% of the companies’ 500 pilots, who work at 11 bases throughout the continent.
The union will reportedly concentrate on technical and safety issues, but is also expected to seek a role in the negotiation of new pilots’ contracts in 2005.
Ryanair pilots are reportedly unhappy with the current system of negotiating pay and conditions and REPA was established to address these and other concerns.
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Excellent news!
This is the best news in a long long time, since Frankie boy was given his marching orders.
Time to restore some dignity and respect to this profession, and get Michael O'Lorenzo to understand that he cannot ride roughshod over us all.
Well done you guys and ladies!
Time to restore some dignity and respect to this profession, and get Michael O'Lorenzo to understand that he cannot ride roughshod over us all.
Well done you guys and ladies!
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Brilliant news
Ryanair and union in the same sentence,I thought i'd never see the day. We all know MOL hates his pilots and has given them some grief and c#ap over the year's to last them a life time, now boys,it's payback!! Does this mean they don't have to pay for their type-rating and all the other expences they are paying?? What does this union really mean??
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Right on! But are we sure this is not a phoney "union" set up by Oh Leery? Does anyone know its origins? Was it possible to organise 85% of the pilots without being scupperd? The best of luck to all involved (flightcrew that is)
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copied from BALPA's site
Media & Press • Tuesday, October 19, 2004
NEWS from BALPA and IALPA
British Airline Pilots’ Association: Irish Airline Pilots Association
Monday 18 October 2004
For interviews or further information contact Keith Bill or David Lloyd on +44 (0)20 7924 7555 mobile 07788 528 527 (KB)
RYANAIR PILOTS UNITE TO FORM NEW ASSOCIATION - REPA
Pilot associations from across Europe are to form a professional body for all Ryanair pilots. The Ryanair European Pilots’ Association (REPA) will give pilots a united voice and representation in their dealings with Ryanair and in particular with its chief executive Michael O’Leary.
REPA was launched today in London and Dublin by the two largest pilot organisations with members flying with the company, the British Airline Pilots’ Association (BALPA) and the Irish Airline Pilots’ Association (IALPA). They have the total support of the European Cockpit Association (ECA), the umbrella organisation of pilot unions in Europe as well as the International Federation of Airline Pilot Associations (IFALPA).
REPA is Europe’s first single company pan-european organisation, and could set an example of how unions can organise in Europe in the future.
Said Captain Mervyn Granshaw, Chairman of BALPA: ‘We recently raised the issue of cross-border unions dealing with cross-border companies at the Trades Union Congress, as today’s markets require more than the traditional response of sovereign trade unions. We are very excited by the development of REPA. We look forward to the challenges and hope our experience will enable the model to be used elsewhere. This could be the blueprint for the future.
‘REPA will help at a number of levels. For the individual pilot it will be a place to bring issues and concerns and get feedback. For the Ryanair pilot community it will be a place to share experiences and develop views on how the company can be a more successful and rewarding place to work. ‘
Said IALPA President Evan Cullen:’ We want to provide a voice and support for Ryanair pilots across all European bases. Members will decide what points they want raised with management, with the regulators, and with politicians. Henceforth Ryanair pilots will be able to speak with one voice.
‘The support of the European Cockpit Association has assisted us to get REPA ready for take-off. The whole concept has been encouraged by the International Federation of Airline Pilot Associations too because they recognise the challenges posed by cross border airlines.’
All existing and new Ryanair pilots who are members of BALPA, IALPA or other national association will automatically be members of REPA. Pilots who are not members of an association will be granted six months free membership of REPA.
‘We shall have to see what happens in the future, and what REPA members decide about the long term,’ said Jim McAuslan, General Secretary of BALPA.
‘At the six month point the parent organisations will discuss with the members of REPA how they would like to see REPA developed and funded. We may find REPA developing in wholly unexpected and new ways in the future.’
‘We hope the relationship between REPA and the company will be a positive one. We hope that Ryanair management will recognise the value to the business of having a means to provide an outlet for the view of the employees. This is the approach adopted in South-West Airlines in the USA, the world’s most successful airline, from whose model the Ryanair approach is allegedly derived.’
REPA will have its own staff as well as additional support from BALPA and IALPA. Costs, including those of the REPA website which went live today - www.repaweb.org - will be met by IALPA, BALPA and the ECA.
At the outset Ryanair pilots from Ireland, the UK, Italy, Spain, Belgium, France Germany and Scandinavia will be members of REPA. Others will join as Ryanair itself expands.
REPA questions and answers
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NEWS from BALPA and IALPA
British Airline Pilots’ Association: Irish Airline Pilots Association
Monday 18 October 2004
For interviews or further information contact Keith Bill or David Lloyd on +44 (0)20 7924 7555 mobile 07788 528 527 (KB)
RYANAIR PILOTS UNITE TO FORM NEW ASSOCIATION - REPA
Pilot associations from across Europe are to form a professional body for all Ryanair pilots. The Ryanair European Pilots’ Association (REPA) will give pilots a united voice and representation in their dealings with Ryanair and in particular with its chief executive Michael O’Leary.
REPA was launched today in London and Dublin by the two largest pilot organisations with members flying with the company, the British Airline Pilots’ Association (BALPA) and the Irish Airline Pilots’ Association (IALPA). They have the total support of the European Cockpit Association (ECA), the umbrella organisation of pilot unions in Europe as well as the International Federation of Airline Pilot Associations (IFALPA).
REPA is Europe’s first single company pan-european organisation, and could set an example of how unions can organise in Europe in the future.
Said Captain Mervyn Granshaw, Chairman of BALPA: ‘We recently raised the issue of cross-border unions dealing with cross-border companies at the Trades Union Congress, as today’s markets require more than the traditional response of sovereign trade unions. We are very excited by the development of REPA. We look forward to the challenges and hope our experience will enable the model to be used elsewhere. This could be the blueprint for the future.
‘REPA will help at a number of levels. For the individual pilot it will be a place to bring issues and concerns and get feedback. For the Ryanair pilot community it will be a place to share experiences and develop views on how the company can be a more successful and rewarding place to work. ‘
Said IALPA President Evan Cullen:’ We want to provide a voice and support for Ryanair pilots across all European bases. Members will decide what points they want raised with management, with the regulators, and with politicians. Henceforth Ryanair pilots will be able to speak with one voice.
‘The support of the European Cockpit Association has assisted us to get REPA ready for take-off. The whole concept has been encouraged by the International Federation of Airline Pilot Associations too because they recognise the challenges posed by cross border airlines.’
All existing and new Ryanair pilots who are members of BALPA, IALPA or other national association will automatically be members of REPA. Pilots who are not members of an association will be granted six months free membership of REPA.
‘We shall have to see what happens in the future, and what REPA members decide about the long term,’ said Jim McAuslan, General Secretary of BALPA.
‘At the six month point the parent organisations will discuss with the members of REPA how they would like to see REPA developed and funded. We may find REPA developing in wholly unexpected and new ways in the future.’
‘We hope the relationship between REPA and the company will be a positive one. We hope that Ryanair management will recognise the value to the business of having a means to provide an outlet for the view of the employees. This is the approach adopted in South-West Airlines in the USA, the world’s most successful airline, from whose model the Ryanair approach is allegedly derived.’
REPA will have its own staff as well as additional support from BALPA and IALPA. Costs, including those of the REPA website which went live today - www.repaweb.org - will be met by IALPA, BALPA and the ECA.
At the outset Ryanair pilots from Ireland, the UK, Italy, Spain, Belgium, France Germany and Scandinavia will be members of REPA. Others will join as Ryanair itself expands.
REPA questions and answers
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At last
Our own union - something with the power of outside organisations such as BALPA, and with the interests of our own company at the fore-front of it's running...guys, what are we now waiting for?!?!
Our own union - something with the power of outside organisations such as BALPA, and with the interests of our own company at the fore-front of it's running...guys, what are we now waiting for?!?!
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Sounds good this new website and Union. The only concern I have is ...... is it safe? Has anyone signed on yet and if so do you have any worries at all if FR have any input into it or if they receive any details of the member's and the info.
Call me paronoid but I aint putting my name down till I know its safe.
Call me paronoid but I aint putting my name down till I know its safe.
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security issues
the website screens all applicants, using your staff number and actual name.
Only pilots are granted access to the site.
Furthermore, if anyone is suspected of being a leak, they are promptly removed from the site.
atleast, that's the way I understand it is.
Only pilots are granted access to the site.
Furthermore, if anyone is suspected of being a leak, they are promptly removed from the site.
atleast, that's the way I understand it is.
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I just managed to get myself registered for REPA and I appreciated the security provisions. (BTW, at least one person I know has had a query by telephone, so security does seem to be functioning).
I'm certainly not going to "leak" the numbers, but for something only two days old the membership seems to be going forward rather well. Whether or not sparks will fly, or what we will hear about events in different bases, is another matter.
I'm certainly not going to "leak" the numbers, but for something only two days old the membership seems to be going forward rather well. Whether or not sparks will fly, or what we will hear about events in different bases, is another matter.
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come on boys and girls at ryanair get yourself registered at www.repaweb.org. good to see so many on the site already.lets put all that talk to use now.
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Just Heard the News....
Is this not just wonderful news ... hope on the horizon, or at least a chance that hope is on the horizon. They have given us an opportunity to grasp, or to ignore.
We have an opportunity to screw it up by not participating and helping each other. If we cannot participate in an anonymous forum we deserve all that comes to us.
We have an opportunity to screw it up by not participating and helping each other. If we cannot participate in an anonymous forum we deserve all that comes to us.
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For all those reading and not posting...
To think yourself not involved by simply staying quiet and not acting is naieve
Everyone is involved in this decision
This is a decision that is going to change your carreer whether you stay with RYR or move to another company, either by forces beyond your control or your own will
Go to the website. See whats being posted there. Give yourself a better understanding of what exactly is going on, and who youre really working for
Because it isnt all going to blow over you if you keep your head down...its going to shovel us all up
To think yourself not involved by simply staying quiet and not acting is naieve
Everyone is involved in this decision
This is a decision that is going to change your carreer whether you stay with RYR or move to another company, either by forces beyond your control or your own will
Go to the website. See whats being posted there. Give yourself a better understanding of what exactly is going on, and who youre really working for
Because it isnt all going to blow over you if you keep your head down...its going to shovel us all up
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www.repaweb.org
just been on repaweb.approximately 100 members and growing daily.come on gang.not a lot out of hundreds of pilots but getting
there.get signed up!
thanks aloue!
there.get signed up!
thanks aloue!
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Grim Repa, like yourself I am very pleased to see the arrival of www.repaweb.org. I too am active on that site.
However, given the ability of a certain airline to twist numbers and statistics may I encourage all involved not to provide any detailed information about membership here.
Thanks Grim for your understanding. We WILL make this work by pulling together.
However, given the ability of a certain airline to twist numbers and statistics may I encourage all involved not to provide any detailed information about membership here.
Thanks Grim for your understanding. We WILL make this work by pulling together.
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tell the truth
aloue,why should i not quote the figures.we are not afraid of the truth.are we going to go creeping around corners watching over our shoulders all the time.we are men and it is about time we started to act like men.i have had my ear bent on a daily basis about need for action and now we are supposed to be contnet with about 15% of a sign up to repa.to hell with htat buddy,no disrespect intended to you,but it is about time people started to sh*t or get off the pot here.